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  •  some day (7+ / 0-)

    the israelis and palestinians will realize that they have been used as pawns by powerful entities that care not a whit about the well-being of the people on either side. a lot of people around the world are emotionally invested in demonizing one or the other side without caring to make the effort to understand how people come to behave so viciously. a lot of people around the world are financially and politically invested in the conflict continuing as conflict, rather than ever being resolved to the benefit of the israelis and palestinians.

    The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

    by Laurence Lewis on Tue Aug 05, 2014 at 11:04:44 AM PDT

    •  Bingo (4+ / 0-)

      and that is the sad reality of the thing.  We can talk about the historical blunders all we want, and they are legion.  But the MIC wants nothing more than war to keep their pockets full, and they're getting their way.

      I cannot help though but make the comparison to the US and our treatment of Native Americans here when we took over this place.  The lies they were told, repeatedly, to get their land and take away their lives.  Many of them chose death instead of living in captivity where they were 'told to live'.  And can we blame them?  Hardly.  

      Read "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee", Dee Brown.  I had not read that before now and it paints an ugly picture of the US, and that ugly picture fits lots of current events in today's world.

      •  i read that book (3+ / 0-)
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        when i was in junior high- as influential on my political thinking as anything i've ever read. but it's not just the mic, it's also the oil industry, and various regional powers that need the i/p conflict as a distraction for their own people.

        depending on biases, it's easy to demonize one or other side of the i/p conflict, it's much more difficult to try to understand.

        The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

        by Laurence Lewis on Tue Aug 05, 2014 at 11:42:16 AM PDT

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    •  As Steve Earle Put It In His Song "Rich Man's War" (2+ / 0-)
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      Ali was the second son of a second son
      Grew up in Gaza throwing bottles and rocks when the tanks would come
      Ain’t nothin’ else to do around here just a game children play
      Somethin’ ‘bout livin’ in fear all your life makes you hard that way

      He answered when he got the call
      Wrapped himself in death and praised Allah
      A fat man in a new Mercedes drove him to the door
      Just another poor boy off to fight a rich man’s war

      “I believe all Southern liberals come from the same starting point--race. Once you figure out they are lying to you about race, you start to question everything.” ― Molly Ivins

      by RoIn on Tue Aug 05, 2014 at 01:19:38 PM PDT

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      •  Or as Tom Russell says (3+ / 0-)
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        We got fundamentalist Muslims
        We got fundamentalist Jews
        We got fundamentalist Christians
        Who'll blow the whole thing up for you
        ...
        But as I travel around this big old world
        The one thing I most fear
        Is a white guy in a golf shirt
        With a cellphone in his ear

        He's talking about the border, but some of the same patterns and issues apply

        Mark Twain: It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.

        by Land of Enchantment on Tue Aug 05, 2014 at 02:26:33 PM PDT

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