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    of international law.  You're leaving out the entire proportionality concept, which overrides everything.

    •  It does not "override everything". Israel's (8+ / 0-)

      retaliation must be proportional, otherwise it is culpable under international law.  That, however, does not IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM diminish Hamas' culpability.  Binary thinking says that only one side can be in the wrong.  Both can be.  Israel is not absolved from a proportional response and one which seeks to minimize and avoid civilian casualties by the siting of the rockets in civilian areas.  And Hamas is not absolved of their crime in firing from under the cover of a civilian area by a disproportionate response by Israel.   BOTH are culpable.

      Anyone arguing that there's no difference between the parties is a fucking moron who can simply go to hell. -- kos

      by Its the Supreme Court Stupid on Wed Aug 06, 2014 at 12:14:02 PM PDT

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      •  the fact of firing rockets that can't be aimed (1+ / 0-)
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        is a crime, the fact of having people that Israel pretends are used as shields is not a crime.  So far no one has proven any such thing, and there have been many international observers, and if there were even one instance of that happening, it would be big news.  Gaza is tiny, living in an apartment over a member of Hamas's home is not Hamas using human shields, it's living. In contrast Israeli troops have used Palestinian civilians go 'go first' into dangerous zones.  

        Hamas is high-minded, they gave up Syrian arms and money because they would not rubber stamp killing civilians.  They are bad because of their rockets not being aimable, not because Gaza is tiny and under siege, and they think they'll be continuously starved unless Israel comes to respect them as potentially dangerous and so in need of diplomacy.  They look to the West Bank and see the continued humiliations and land grabs and they see no alternative.

        Is there an alternative to resisting occupation? (and yes, they are still 'occupied' since they still have no control of borders or airspace or use of the sea)

        plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

        by anna shane on Wed Aug 06, 2014 at 12:56:04 PM PDT

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