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  •  sure, but I don't think that was the point (4+ / 0-)

    2008 predates the "Tea Party" per se, but in both 2008 and 2012, it seemed possible that the Republicans would nominate a way-right candidate — the most startling nominee since Reagan. Both times, the Republicans nominated arguably the most moderate major candidate. It isn't clear what that means, but whatever it means, it doesn't depend on Romney's character.

    "Democracy is a political system for people who are not sure they are right." —E. E. Schattschneider

    by HudsonValleyMark on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 05:52:20 AM PDT

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    •  Yet still (1+ / 0-)
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      in 2008 they had to throw in Palin to make McCain more palatable.  That was a part nod to horny old white conservatives who could fantasize about her and part nod to the wackier sector to reign them on for voting.  And in 2012, it came down to the end when there was really no other "frontrunner" surviving.  Romney became the Not the black man candidate.

      And we can't discount the bulk of the party who are to the left of the tea party in various degrees.  Heck - I still know those who you might even consider real "liberal republicans" from days gone by - God knows why they still remain Republican but they do - although I don't think they voted for Romney (I'm speaking of the ones I know)

      "I'm not left wing because i'm ideological, or passionate, or angry. I'm left wing because I'm informed." - Mikesco

      by newfie on Sat Aug 09, 2014 at 05:17:26 AM PDT

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      •  sure, and Ryan (0+ / 0-)

        Also intended to be a sop to the right, palatable to the center.

        There's no question that the Tea Party has substantial influence even in presidential politics. But if we're comparing Tea Party influence in the Republican Party to "liberal" influence in the Democratic Party (where fladem started), that's pretty tricky.

        "Democracy is a political system for people who are not sure they are right." —E. E. Schattschneider

        by HudsonValleyMark on Sat Aug 09, 2014 at 05:47:42 AM PDT

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        •  That is like comparing (0+ / 0-)

          NFL and Pop Warner.

          "I'm not left wing because i'm ideological, or passionate, or angry. I'm left wing because I'm informed." - Mikesco

          by newfie on Mon Aug 11, 2014 at 07:40:16 AM PDT

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