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  •  Once people have matured without developing the (1+ / 0-)
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    habit of thought, they're lost for the rest of their lives. Individuals can, through years of dedication develop the skills they were denied as kids, but very few people have that kind of drive.

    People that don't know how to think are easy prey, and that's the point of all this "reform".

    The process of education is no mystery, we've known how to do it well for at least a century. What is a mystery (to me anyway), is why people with kids have never made any demand that their kids get the education they've paid for.

    "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire

    by Greyhound on Thu Aug 07, 2014 at 10:08:07 AM PDT

    •  Most of the individuals (1+ / 0-)
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      Who manage to overcome that sort of deficit have managed to find a mentor or a succession of inspiring figures--usually teachers. But it's damn hard.

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      Starting no later than Little Rock.

      Blacks for one have been making those demands all along. It's just that they've been consistently denied by those in both parties at all levels in the country who want to concentrate all the remedies on the very last link in the chain, the classroom, as indicated in your observant opening reference.

      You've probably seen me mention this but it was said in an NPR story several years ago that a study found 80% of the time a rich young kid asks a question, they're answered and engaged for followup. With the poor of all races, that's reversed, 80% of the time they're told to shut up and quit pestering.

      The reasons why aren't rocket science, just think momentarily of the tremendous time burden imposed by poverty as revealed by those who do the 1-week-on-minimum-wage experiments.

      And there in a few formative years before any "under" performing teacher can be fired, is a huge factor in the difference in creating the hunger vs the avoidance of learning.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Thu Aug 07, 2014 at 10:16:07 AM PDT

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