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  •  No, progressives in the US allied with... (4+ / 0-)

    ...paleoconservatives to make sure the US would do nothing without UN permission, knowing that such permission would not happen.

    It's not the side effects of the cocaine/I'm thinking that it must be love

    by Rich in PA on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 06:49:17 AM PDT

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    •  Keep moving those goal posts! (5+ / 0-)
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      Now it's a progressive and old school conservative victory. Why after a few more rounds of this I'm sure we could get the Trilateral Commission and the Catholic church on the list.

      GOP 2014 strategy -- Hire clowns, elephants, and a ringmaster and say "a media circus" has emerged and blame Democrats for lack of progress. Have pundits agree that "both sides are to blame" and hope the public will stay home on election day.

      by ontheleftcoast on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 06:54:31 AM PDT

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      •  Riddle me this, riddler. (7+ / 0-)

        Was there not a progressive outcry against Administration plans to intervene in Syria, and progressive rejoicing when the Administration gave up its plans to intervene?

        It's not the side effects of the cocaine/I'm thinking that it must be love

        by Rich in PA on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 07:19:16 AM PDT

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        •  Yes, there was (3+ / 1-)
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          Was there not a progressive outcry against Administration plans to intervene in Syria, and progressive rejoicing when the Administration gave up its plans to intervene?
          but you leave out that the possible US intervention in Syria would have benefited ISIS, the same group that the USAF bombed today.

          Your support of ISIS is interesting.

          The world is bad enough as it is, you have no right to make it any worse.
          Lamb chop, we can quibble what to call it, but I think we can both agree it's creepy.

          by InAntalya on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 07:44:42 AM PDT

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        •  If I recall correctly ... (2+ / 0-)
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          The administration plan - which received congressional support - was narrowly focused on preventing Assad from using chemical weapons, and the airstrikes were prevented by Assad making commitments not to do so.

          •  yes but bombing assad would indirectly benefit (2+ / 0-)
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            ISIS, just because it wouldn't DIRECTLY doesn't mean it wouldn' play to their advantage. InAntalya  is  rationally correct. ISIS are rebels in both countries. Assad is their enemy, he might not be their ONLY enemy but he's ONE of them ergo wiping out Assad or hurting his empire strengthens Isis's hands.  This is actually playing out smarter than You think for obama.  It's Very nuanced.

            There is no such thing as False hope- there is only Hope.

            by daeros on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 08:44:04 AM PDT

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            •  I don't disagree (1+ / 0-)
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              I was just observing that it wasn't a question of bowing to pressure from either factions in the US or Putin, but rather the policy adopted achieved the (albeit limited) objectives sought.

            •  So by your logic (0+ / 0-)

              Being less friendly with soviet Russia during WWII would have been pro Nazi. Ya that makes sense lol.

              I agree a nuanced look is good. But the logic that anything that hurts my enemy is good, is not a nuanced argument.

        •  Those plans were given up only after (1+ / 0-)
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          our goal was achieved without bombing.

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