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  •  from the article about the russians (7+ / 0-)
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    Collective movements start in support of the sanctioned, as is the case today in Russia. The country was hardly ever more unified behind their president than now. This could almost lead you to think that the rabble-rousers of the West are on the payroll of the Russian secret service.
    the articel was published in german, english and russian
    •  People respond to incentives. (2+ / 0-)
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      The country was hardly ever more unified behind their president than now.
      Even if that's what the polls measure, I can't trust the measurement.

      Putin has spent more than a decade ensuring that there is no viable political opposition.  Anyone who thought differently most certainly would never say so in public.  And I question whether anyone has the kind of objective information they would need to make a rational decision.

      -7.75 -4.67

      "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose."

      There are no Christians in foxholes.

      by Odysseus on Sat Aug 09, 2014 at 10:53:00 AM PDT

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      •  have you read the articel the diary is about (0+ / 0-)
        •  Yes, it's not very good. (0+ / 0-)
          What is needed is help in modernizing the country, no sanctions which will further decrease the dearth of wealth and damage the bond of relationships. Economic relationships are also relationships. International cooperation is akin to tenderness between nations because everyone feels better afterwards.
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          Brandt and Bahr have never reached for the tool of economic sanctions. They knew why: there are no recorded cases in which countries under sanctions apologized for their behavior and were obedient ever after. On the contrary: collective movements start in support of the sanctioned, as is the case today in Russia.
          The meat is here, as far as I can tell.  It doesn't take 3000 words to say that.

          -7.75 -4.67

          "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose."

          There are no Christians in foxholes.

          by Odysseus on Sat Aug 09, 2014 at 12:15:13 PM PDT

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      •  and yes that is what the articel (0+ / 0-)

        complains about kind of

        And I question whether anyone has the kind of objective information they would need to make a rational decision
        no offence

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