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  •  agreed! (16+ / 0-)

    the militarization has filtered down, believe me. I have had a lot of "stupid" trouble with the county cops where I live since moving to this semi-rural county in 1996.

    And I'm a lawyer! I have brought my children up to not tell the cops anything except their name and address and then to call me right away. They are clueless which seems to make every encounter fraught with ridiculous power -tripping by the Sheriff and his "deputies"

    Ugh! Sometime I should write a diary on some of the BS I've put up with around here. And I'm white, I can only imagine what would have happened if I was a POC.

    Blessed are the hearts that can bend; for they can never be broken Albert Camus

    by vcmvo2 on Sat Aug 09, 2014 at 04:30:08 PM PDT

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    •  Wish you would write that diary- (6+ / 0-)

      especially in information about what one has to legally respond to in case of an encounter.  And when you should keep your mouth shut.  Typical games which can later trip you up at interrogations or later in court.  

      Also needed because even if you have a lawyer, not all lawyers are competent, especially one called at the spur of the moment in an emergency - who might not be the one who goes the distance with you.  

      •  OK just for now (7+ / 0-)

        I will think about that diary, because after the latest truly bizarre encounter in May - it's been brewing!

        I used to be a public defender so I always had to protect my clients from the massive criminal justice system that swings into action once you stand accused of a crime. I learned what some cops were like , not all mind you, but there is incredible pressure from the politicians for the DA's and the cops to get convictions and it has gotten much worse.

        But never tell the cops anything but your name and address. Never! Answer questions as briefly as possible, don't embellish. They will use anything you say and not in the way that you might have meant it. Be very careful, very polite. And tape it with your smartphone. Take pictures if it's an accident, and get any potential witnesses names.

        But don't be tempted to talk. Be as courteous as possible. Then if there are charges, get a lawyer.

        Blessed are the hearts that can bend; for they can never be broken Albert Camus

        by vcmvo2 on Sat Aug 09, 2014 at 05:52:24 PM PDT

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    •  Please write that diary. (10+ / 0-)

      It would, no doubt, reflect the experiences of many Kos readers.  

      Our cops have been horrid for years.  One of them has a nickname, Nick at Nite, because he has the night shift.  This goon has been employed since 94, terrorizing the locals during traffic stops.  His routine is to drive close behind you for a millisecond, then hit his lights and siren.  When the victim pulls over, he points his weapon at them and screams at them to put their hands up, accusing them of ignoring his attempts to stop them.  He did this to one of my clients who wasnt yet a block from her driveway.  His latest publicized aggression resulted in a death....he radio'd that he was checking on a "suspicious" vehicle on the side of the road.  Less than a minute later shots were fired and the occupant was dead.  Nick "thought" he saw a "gun".  He is still employed.  Now the department is being investigated for alcohol and drug abuses and sex parties.  We wont see anything of merit come of it.  

      When I was stopped a few weeks ago, I pulled into a heavily populated gas station.  The officer's first words to me were her advice that I should pull over as soon as they light up.  I told her sorry, I read the papers and you guys are in a heap of trouble.  If I'm to be shot I want witnesses.  She wrote a warning and left.

      Save a child's life. Please sign and share. www.signon.org/sign/sarasota-sheriffs-office Save a child's life. Please sign and share.

      by kmfmstar on Sat Aug 09, 2014 at 05:50:27 PM PDT

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      •  Ok I think I will (11+ / 0-)

        I recently had a deputy sheriff point a gun at me in my own house because the neighbor called about "suspicious activity" at my house.

        It was a guy fixing my roof after it leaked, but the whole thing was this deputy got it in his head that it was the Manson family and he sneaked up my staircase with his gun drawn and his flash light on and scared the hell out of me. I was working on my laptop in my bedroom and I didn't hear him. The roofer was long gone. It was bizarre in so many ways.

        So the cop you describe above is really credible to me. I basically had to order this deputy out of my house. Because he was so avidly looking for a crime so he could shoot something.

        Blessed are the hearts that can bend; for they can never be broken Albert Camus

        by vcmvo2 on Sat Aug 09, 2014 at 06:00:16 PM PDT

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    •  thought you were talking about my county (4+ / 0-)

      but you're across the country. I worry something very bad would happen to some kids here who insisted on only giving name and address, and calling a lawyer. I heard that one parent was telling his son to call up the officer and apologize for not being more friendly when the deputy harassed him for no good reason at all, but couldn't manage to provoke anything that could be called resistance. WTF!

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