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  •  Don't forget the tunnels (3+ / 0-)
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    Justanothernyer, Tailfish, rduran

    I agree with your three options, but I think this offensive is really about the tunnels.   He thinks the cost of not taking out all the tunnels and allowing kidnapping and attacks on civilians is too high.

    I'm not sure they would have gone in - and shelled Gaza so hard - were it not for the perceived importance of taking out the tunnels. It's kind of the thing that's different since there have been sporadic rocket attacks all year and they didn't invade until learning about the tunnels

    "Journalistic conventions make it hard for reporters to deal with a big, complicated lie." -- Michael Kinsley.

    by dcg2 on Sat Aug 09, 2014 at 09:09:56 PM PDT

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    •  True as far as the invasion goes (3+ / 0-)
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      but even before the invasion, he was responding with a lot of force to the rocket attacks.  And today's attacks were only about the rocket attacks as well.

      •  Speaking of the rockets (1+ / 0-)
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        here's an interesting and chilling video about the rockets of Gaza:

        … the NSA takes significant care to prevent any abuses and that there is a substantial oversight system in place,” Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California), said August 23.

        by mosesfreeman on Sun Aug 10, 2014 at 02:43:52 AM PDT

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    •  Wait a minute. They just learned about the (4+ / 0-)
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      Lepanto, snoopydawg, SCFrog, poco

      tunnels???

      I've known about them for years. It's how Palestinians get supplies in. Supplies like food, medicine and concrete (to rebuild their blown up buildings) since not much is allowed through the Israeli controlled borders.

      Tracy B Ann - technically that is my signature. I scroll with my middle finger.

      by ZenTrainer on Sat Aug 09, 2014 at 09:25:32 PM PDT

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      •  Wrong Tunnels (5+ / 0-)

        Supply tunnels go to Egypt (non-Israeli controlled border), the tunnels into Israel have another purpose.

        •  Amazing how uniformed people here are (2+ / 0-)
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          about the tunnels.

          •  Or geography (1+ / 0-)
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          •  Amazing here how some people have no (9+ / 0-)

            compassion for the dead Palestinians who have no where to run or seek shelter.
            Amazing that some people blame the dead on Hamas only, not Israel who murdered them.
            Hamas kept the cease fire since 2012. It wasn't  until Bibi invaded Gaza on the pretext of looking for the 3 teenagers he knew had been dead for 3 weeks while he invaded Gaza and arrested innocent people that Hamas fought back.
            He also gagged the newspapers from telling the people of Israel and their patents that they were already dead.
            Amazing how uninformed people here are of the facts which have been stated numerous times.

            "I find it incredible that Keith Alexander can sell secrets and is free to make a huge profit without being slammed with Espionage Act charges and Snowden is stateless" Jesselyn Radack.

            by snoopydawg on Sun Aug 10, 2014 at 01:00:12 AM PDT

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            •  This accusation came from Mondoweiss (1+ / 0-)
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              It wasn't  until Bibi invaded Gaza on the pretext of looking for the 3 teenagers he knew had been dead for 3 weeks while he invaded Gaza and arrested innocent people that Hamas fought back.
              He also gagged the newspapers from telling the people of Israel and their patents that they were already dead.
              Do you have any source for this that isn't an anti-Israel web site?
            •  Huh? (2+ / 0-)
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              dcg2, Justanothernyer

              I'm sort of astounded by the uprates here.  You do know that Bibi didn't invade Gaza looking for anyone, right?  Gaza and the West Bank are not the same place.  If you'd said "Palestine," I'd understand your statement.  If you'd said "bombed an Islamic Jihad rocket launching group in Gaza while Hamas still hadn't fired" I'd understand your statement.  I simply don't understand what is definitively a false statement, when you're blaming people for not understanding "facts which have been stated numerous times."

            •  Obviously fale as rocket attacks by Hamas (0+ / 0-)

              came before the invasion of Gaza.

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