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  •  I agree with everything in the article (10+ / 0-)

    with the exception of three phrases in various spots where he strays from the point.

    I disagree with the self-selection of Rand Paul as a national spokesperson for anything I agree with.

    A)I don't think he actually believes anything
    B)He's likely to create reflexive opposition in potential ostensibly liberal allies who are weak on the issue
    C)He's a disingenuous clown.  His comments about racial justice are particularly troubling in the context of who he is and what else he regularly espouses.

    To the extent he is useful in achieving real progress, great.  I have no problem with using him, as opposed to being represented by him.  My feeling is he's using us to rehabilitate his image in certain regards, and advance his career.

    Iron sharpens Iron. Normal is a dryer setting. STOP illegal immigration NOW! -- Make it LEGAL. If Corporations are People--Let's draft them.

    by benamery21 on Thu Aug 14, 2014 at 11:24:24 AM PDT

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    •  I hear you (7+ / 0-)

      particularly where it's self-serving to him. But aren't they all?

      Fortunately, you get this:

      To the extent he is useful in achieving real progress, great.
      We've got to get eyeballs on this as a national problem--which it is. The loony right has to be reached on it, and he'll reach them. All the peripheral and very real points you bring up could be addressed if we achieve real progress.

      At this point, for this fight, we all need to come together and stop worrying so much about "ulterior motives". Again, I don't think you're wrong about that, but right now, it simply can't matter that much. We've got bigger problems.

      "Counting on people having nowhere else to go is the logic of a slumlord."--Wolf10

      by lunachickie on Thu Aug 14, 2014 at 11:33:03 AM PDT

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      •  I think it was the forum that bothered me (4+ / 0-)
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        more than anything else.  TIME is not the magazine of reaching out to the loony right, in my mind.  It's the magazine of reaching out to the moderate middle.  I'm doubtful he's our best chance of winning them over.

        I hear where you are coming from.  Any ally looks like a good one at this point, given how far out of hand the police state has gotten, particularly over the last half-generation, and how little time we have left before most voters don't remember that the Bill of Rights wasn't always entirely lip service, despite historical abuses.

        Iron sharpens Iron. Normal is a dryer setting. STOP illegal immigration NOW! -- Make it LEGAL. If Corporations are People--Let's draft them.

        by benamery21 on Thu Aug 14, 2014 at 11:50:50 AM PDT

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    •  Rand Paul (0+ / 0-)

      Rand Paul sux dix!

      Music is Mankind's Gift to Humanity

      by BobJustice666 on Sat Aug 16, 2014 at 03:40:40 PM PDT

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