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  •  Really? (6+ / 0-)

    Do ya think George Wallace ASKED kennedy for help?  HISTORY, people - go study it!

    The FEDERAL interest here is Civil Rights - and there are numerous laws on that subject.  

    I can't believe this subthread has even gone on this long. Leave it to us actual lawyers, please, and stop mis-speculating.

    •  George Wallace DID ask LBJ to send troops (0+ / 0-)

      to Alabama in March, 1965.  

      Asshole.  

      Shirley Chisholm was right. Our Republic is in deep trouble.

      by Big River Bandido on Thu Aug 14, 2014 at 03:09:05 PM PDT

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      •  Irrelevant. It wasn't national guard units. (0+ / 0-)

        Lies written in ink can never disguise facts written in blood.--Lu Xun

        by Timaeus on Thu Aug 14, 2014 at 03:20:45 PM PDT

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        •  It's the same principle (0+ / 0-)

          All I am speaking about is that there is a long history of distrust among Americans of federal authority.  This distrust crops up in the Constitution and in everyday national politics, all the time.  

          Shirley Chisholm was right. Our Republic is in deep trouble.

          by Big River Bandido on Thu Aug 14, 2014 at 03:24:49 PM PDT

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        •  IIRC, the confrontation between the Kennedy (3+ / 0-)

          administration and Gov.George Wallace of Alabama in 1963:
             Governor Wallace stood in the doorway of a building at the University of Alabama to block two black students from registering.
             Deputy Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach asked the Governor to step aside. Wallace refused, and instead read a speech.  Katzenbach then called President Kennedy.
             Kennedy federalized the Alabama National Guard. General Henry Graham, the commander of the Alabama National Guard, arrived with four Guard Sergeants and, on the authority of the President of the United States, ordered Governor Wallace to step aside.
             Wallace complied.
              This was a case in which the President federalized a state National Guard in order to enforce a federal court order against a defiant state government.

          •  Thank you (1+ / 0-)
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            Yes, that is a famous case in which the President took the action.  But how many times has that happened in American history?  The Civil War, The Whiskey Rebellion…there may be a few more incidents in peacetime…but it's quite rare — because when it does happen, it often leaves behind a lot of bitterness on all sides. That's why there's reluctance —on all sides — to use it.  

            I personally hope that doesn't become needed.  Not because I fear solving the problem, but because I fear calling in a federal force will only inflame the situation nationally.  The same sociopathic impulse which fuels the Ferguson Police Department also fuels the conspiracy-driven militia movement.  These guys are crazy enough to start a race war because the President is black, and they are very close already.  

            It would be far better for the country if someone in Missouri who actually possessed legitimate political power were to exercise it aggressively.  That kind of power is the kind that the police would if not respect, at least submit to.  

            Shirley Chisholm was right. Our Republic is in deep trouble.

            by Big River Bandido on Thu Aug 14, 2014 at 05:21:07 PM PDT

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