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  •  Jay Nixon could have stopped this before it (6+ / 0-)

    started, but he is a political coward and a typical "conservative" Democrat. This is what Democrats are asked to support, because if we don't the evil Republicans would be worse, how could they be worse than this wormy gutless toady. I have not voted for a Democrat unless  they support the cause of justice and peace, across the spectrum of policy: economic, racial, environmental, social, domestic or international.

    "Intelligence is quickness in seeing things as they are..." George Santayana

    by KJG52 on Thu Aug 14, 2014 at 07:55:11 PM PDT

    •  Some things to consider (9+ / 0-)

      Number 1 is that local control is a big deal to the people of St. Louis, after all after years and years of lobbying the city of St. Louis finally wrestled back local control of our own police department. (Not to be confused with the heavy handed police force for St. Louis County). Thus, I think it was necessary to see how local police responded to the situation before taking action.

      Number 2 and I think this gets forgotten is that Ferguson didn't become a war zone of police soldiers until after the Sunday night riots. At first, it seemed like a relatively normal response to the violence that had broken out the day before. This doesn't justify the actions by the force on subsequent evenings, but does provide some context.

      Number 3 if the governor had taken preemptive action it would probably played out a rash action. The only thing voters are going to remember about this situation if this plays out well is that Nixon is the one who took control away from the St. Louis County Police and put the State Police in charge. In fact, aside from some comments here and there this is already how it is playing out.

      Number 4. Sometime party purity isn't the best scenario. Imagine instead of a conservative Democrat like Jay Nixon, we had a Rick Scott, a Rick Snyder, or a Scott Walker. Yeah they would have sent in the State Police too, but only to reinforce the position of the local police. Incidentally, I don't think he's as conservative as you think he is mostly because you have to consider the fact that Republicans has a super majority in the State Legislature. Thus I'm going to give Nixon credit where credit is due, and I'm not his biggest fan.

      •  BS, local control was not seemingly an issue for (2+ / 0-)
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        the Ferguson cops when they called in the St. Louis County cops and by the way, this is Thursday, and the Governor had Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday to act in behalf of the people of Ferguson who were in the midst of a police riot!

        He didn't see a political advantage in coming out against inappropriate police action until the Nightly News was broadcasting the police riot on national television.

        Stop with the "party purity," meme, if a party doesn't stand for something then it has no business existing.  

        "Intelligence is quickness in seeing things as they are..." George Santayana

        by KJG52 on Fri Aug 15, 2014 at 12:09:20 AM PDT

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    •  No, he couldn't (7+ / 0-)

      Ferguson police insisted on calling the shots, as well as their city government. Taking over local governments isnt as eady as you might think.

      And Nixon certainly handled it better than Obama handled the Occupy protests. Nixon at least backed the side of citizens over corporations and rouge police.

      Money is property, not speech. Overturn Citizens United.

      by Betty Pinson on Thu Aug 14, 2014 at 08:08:55 PM PDT

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      •  ...and the Governor of the State of Missouri said (0+ / 0-)

        I'm so solidly behind local control that I'm going to stand back and watch as a community is turned into a war zone and do nothing because of my commitment. If there had been wide spread rioting and the community was being burned down by its people he would have called in the National Guard and been hailed a hero by his confederate constituency. I am sick of so called Democrats defending this garbage to prop up a failing and corrupt institution: the Democratic Party. The existing institution has to be completely deconstructed and rebuilt, the corruption runs too deep and the Democratic toadying to the status quo is slowly strangling any chance of recovery.

        "Intelligence is quickness in seeing things as they are..." George Santayana

        by KJG52 on Fri Aug 15, 2014 at 12:15:48 AM PDT

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    •  Please stop with this kind of instant... (2+ / 0-)
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      response crap. Please...

      It's the same sort of crap we've been through with Benghazi. Who knew what and when and why wasn't the response quick enough?

      Yes, it is going to be politicized. Yes, responses are going to be made based on political considerations. It is a disgusting situation we find ourselves in.

      Mull over that little nugget of information and consider all of the BS that goes along with it.

      This is what we have to deal with today. Politicians being politicians and citizens being ground down to the least common denominator and how will they vote based on something or another to make a good show of "Democracy".

      WE. DO. NOT. COUNT. PERIOD.

      Men with religious beliefs have killed more people than any god that they have created...

      by Mislead on Thu Aug 14, 2014 at 08:32:41 PM PDT

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    •  Sadly (0+ / 0-)

      The Republicans ARE worse.  In too many cases, though, the only thing the Democrat in a given race has going for him or her is that he's NOT the "other guy".  There aren't any real choices in far too many races, especially at the local and state level. And that's what the Dems of today and tomorrow have to change.

      I'll believe corporations are people when one comes home from Afghanistan in a body bag.

      by mojo11 on Fri Aug 15, 2014 at 08:05:12 AM PDT

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