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  •  I call total bullshit! Obfuscation is the key here (0+ / 0-)

    as it is after any kind of kiling like this.  Paint the victim as a nasty dangerous druggie or gang member (easy.  all it takes is one picture), and make sure we all know that the offending guy who pulled the trigger was scraped up a bit too.  (I remember once when I was about 7 years old, I broke my older sister's school project that she had worked on for like a week.  I immediately claimed I hurt my ankle in the process, knowing that would mitigate at least a little bit. I WAS 7!!!)

    However, when they are trying to claim that someone they stopped and frisked or tasered or shot and killed was a suspect in a robbery in the area, or matched the description of the suspect of a robbery that just took place, WE HEAR ABOUT THAT IMMEDIATELY!!!  IMMEDIATELY!!  They would have drawn THAT out like a gun, in the hour after the killling.  TOTAL BULLSHIT!

    If I am not for myself, who will be for me? If I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when? Rabbi Hillel the Elder, Ethics of the Fathers. Corporadeus

    by Floyd Blue on Fri Aug 15, 2014 at 07:46:48 AM PDT

    •  But what if the surveillance photos bear it out? (1+ / 0-)
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      The description of Michael Brown's clothing seems to match the guy in the video/stills that have been released.

      Maybe it was him; maybe it wasn't, but it highlights the problem of rushing to make a saint out of this kid before knowing all the facts.

      And, more importantly, whether he was a robbery suspect or not, if he was shot in the back while posing no threat, that's still the issue we should be focused on.  Not whether this kid was a "gentle giant" or a robbery suspect.

      •  At first glance, they don't. (1+ / 0-)
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        In the photo of slain MB, looks like he's wearing longer pants and sneakers. Video shots the guy is wearing shorts and flip flops.

        So what, he "strong arms" a store clerk, then changes clothes, then walks down the street??

        This was why they needed 6 days.

        •  I've looked at both photos... (1+ / 0-)
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          of his body and in the store.  To me, they match.  And I really hate saying that.  I say this because in both photos there are rings around his legs...like he's wearing flip flops with socks.  I would love someone to prove me wrong.  

          It still doesn't justify cold blooded murder.  

        •  Kind of missing the point (6+ / 0-)

          Whether Brown was the robbery suspect or not should be fairly easy to determine.  But people getting all worked up about, alleging that this is all a cover-up 6 days later, are getting sidetracked.

          Again, the issue really shouldn't be whether Brown was a robbery suspect or not, but still should be focused on the events immediately before he was shot.  Because even a murder suspect is entitled to all of his or her constitutional rights - which include not being shot in the back or while they're otherwise not posing any threat.

          •  No I get that (0+ / 0-)

            completely. But the fact that 6 days passed gave this shithole of a PD time to cook up their defense, scrub offending officer's social media presence, align stories, etc.

            •  You can't "cook up" surveillance photos (0+ / 0-)

              They either existed before or they didn't.

              It's disturbing to see people acting like the police used the time to plant evidence or something.  And scrubbing social media won't do much; prosecutors were perfectly capable of prosecuting crime well before Facebook existed.  

          •  Even the NRA's top lawyer was "mischievous" (0+ / 0-)

            as a teenager ...

            Less than six years later, Robert Dowlut would be a free man—his murder conviction thrown out by the Indiana Supreme Court because of a flawed police investigation. The court ordered a new trial, but one never took place. Dowlut would return to the Army and go on to earn college and law degrees. Then he would embark on a career that put him at the epicenter of the movement to transform America's gun laws.
            http://www.motherjones.com/...

            Funny how some people get let off the hook by law enforcement and others get shot.

            "Looking back over a lifetime, you see that love was the answer to everything." — Ray Bradbury

            by We Shall Overcome on Fri Aug 15, 2014 at 08:18:44 AM PDT

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        •  It looks like shorts in the street photo too (2+ / 0-)
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          to me. They're pulled down low.

          And the t-shirt and striped socks also match.

          "With all this manure around, there has to be a pony somewhere!" - Count Piotr Vorkosigan

          by jrooth on Fri Aug 15, 2014 at 08:09:43 AM PDT

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