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  •  Don't say SWAT (0+ / 0-)

    Say Special Weapons Action Team.  I swat a pesky fly.  Special Weapons are oh, so very different.

    •  I believe the acronym (11+ / 0-)

      stands (or did at least) for Special Weapons And Tactics.  Though in this case, it doesn't seem like the tactics were so fuck-all special.  So maybe your translation actually works better.

      I'll believe corporations are people when one comes home from Afghanistan in a body bag.

      by mojo11 on Fri Aug 15, 2014 at 11:29:58 AM PDT

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      •  The point is the Special Weapons (1+ / 0-)
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        The point being that the special weapons are appropriate only when facing white sovereign citizen militia assholes or heavily armed drug dealers.  We do not need officers in hard gear with M16s, sniper rifles, sound cannons, and armored vehicles for citizens peaceably assembling to petition their government for redress of wrongs.

        •  A reason for the Special Weapons (2+ / 0-)
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          penguins4peace, Timaeus

          I completely agree that M16s and sniper rifles are way out of line for peaceful protestors and I'm not in any way defending the police behavior in Ferguson which is absurd. I'm also not defending the level to which law enforcement agencies around the country have been stocked with military style weaponry.

          The point I do want to make, which you touched on, is that there are times when the police need that level of weaponry and if they haven't been provided with it in advance then there is no way for them to get it in a timely manner.

          One prime example, and one that certainly accelerated the "militarization" of police forces around the country if not outright began it, was the infamous North Hollywood Shootout. (Paraphrased from the article) In that case two robbers armed with fully automatic weapons fired over 2000 rounds of ammunition and injured 18 people including 11 police officers. All of the units responding to that scene until SWAT arrived had only handguns and shotguns which were ineffective against the robbers who were wearing body armor. The officers also had to commandeer an armored truck to use as a shield to rescue injured officers trapped in the line of fire.

          Since then many departments around the country have been issuing assault rifles to patrol units in order to be prepared for such admittedly rare occasions although they usually stay locked in the trunk where they should be.

          What's happening in Ferguson isn't he result of equipment it's the result of poor training, officers that are suffering from constant ongoing stress disorder, and a system suffering from a complete lack of accountability when things go wrong.

          Sadly, tragic mistakes will happen. The key is to prevent as many as possible and to hold those responsible accountable for their actions, i.e. equlity and justice for all.

      •  Rec'ed for your sig. /eom (0+ / 0-)

        "We are how we treat each other and nothing more."

        by Mr Bojangles on Fri Aug 15, 2014 at 11:59:56 PM PDT

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    •  well (2+ / 0-)
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      Prognosticator, Mr Bojangles

      When you use them under normal circumstances they're no longer special.  And when something ceases to be special you no longer treat it with the respect it deserves.

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