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  •  If Mike was a suspect in a robbery why did it take (29+ / 0-)

    Ferguson Police Dept. six days to say so?  Because it is a story--carefully crafted by PR specialists helping out the good ol boys down there who are not used to being on the defensive. It stinks.  It is not standard procedure to drive up next to an alleged perp, fail to call for backup, and arm wrestle out the window.  And, even on the remote chance Brown was involved in a robbery for cigars--does that justify not only shooting him several times when he is surrendering?  Leaving his body in the road without one check to see if he needed medical attention?  No.  This was an out of control cop.  Certainly we have ample evidence that this is an out of control P.D.  These terrorists can't tap dance their way out of the mess they created.  God willing, there will be a murder conviction.  Absent that, there is no justice. No peace. More murders until enough of us say, "No more. Don't shoot."  
    Ah, I am so sick from these events.

    •  You and me both, Dretutz (4+ / 0-)
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      Think most of us are.

      There is something in us that refuses to be regarded as less than human. We are created for freedom - Archbishop Desmond Tutu

      by Onomastic on Fri Aug 15, 2014 at 10:24:06 AM PDT

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    •  I agree it's so fishy (3+ / 0-)
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      Seems like the robbery was an after the fact justification for the shooting. I don't believe it.

      When two frat boys have a kerfuffle, it's a brohaha. Bubbanomics

      by raina on Fri Aug 15, 2014 at 10:28:42 AM PDT

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    •  Why did the cop tell him to "Get on the fucking (10+ / 0-)

      sidewalk" if he was a robbery suspect?

      I don't know what consciousness is or how it works, but I like it.

      by SocioSam on Fri Aug 15, 2014 at 10:56:13 AM PDT

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    •  His friend's lawyer has already confirmed (1+ / 0-)
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      to MSNBC and other news agencies that they did in fact steal the cigars:

      http://www.msnbc.com/...

      Quote from the friend's lawyer.

      “We need to see that tape, my client did tell us and told the FBI that they went into the store. He told FBI that [Brown] did take cigarillos. He told that to the DOJ and the St. Louis County Police.”
      This in no way justifies killing an unarmed man regardless if he's a suspect.

      This in no way justifies militarizing police forces and deploying snipers and heavily armed cops on the streets.

      But we should be honest with ourselves. If, in fact, Mike Brown did this he shouldn't have been killed for it but he's no longer a hero.

      That in no way changes what the police did.

      When we stop putting leaders from the past up on pedestals and ignoring their flaws, we can start seeing our present leaders for what they really are.

      by PhillyJeff on Fri Aug 15, 2014 at 11:28:38 AM PDT

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      •  Since when was he a hero? (6+ / 0-)

        Does being killed make you a hero now? Does being enrolled in school make you a hero?

        When was he made into a hero?  And since when have heroes been perfect?

        No War but Class War

        by AoT on Fri Aug 15, 2014 at 11:47:49 AM PDT

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        •  Whether he's a good guy or a bad guys is really (2+ / 0-)
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          irrelevant to what happened.

          Given that his friend admitted through his lawyer that they did steal the cigars, we might as well admit it to OURSELVES.

          Trying to say that stealing things and basically assaulting and intimidating a clerk that confronts you is just "boys will be boys" behavior that everyone does is extremely condescending in my opinion particularly to the black community. Not everyone does things like that and personally I believe that MOST people don't do things like that.

          Mike Brown was wrong to do what he did. We should be able to admit that and not try to pretend he wasn't.

          It's also TOTALLY IRRELEVANT to him being shot, especially because the officer apparently didn't even know about it.

          When we stop putting leaders from the past up on pedestals and ignoring their flaws, we can start seeing our present leaders for what they really are.

          by PhillyJeff on Fri Aug 15, 2014 at 04:41:36 PM PDT

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          •  If it's irrelevant then why are we having this (1+ / 0-)
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            conversation? We both know it's relevant. It turns him into a scary black man. I mean look what he was wearing!!!!!

            You're the one who decided to talk about him as a hero, not anyone else.

            No War but Class War

            by AoT on Fri Aug 15, 2014 at 06:15:34 PM PDT

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