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  •  They also look to World War 2 (3+ / 0-)
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    When Europe appeased the Nazis, and it only emboldened them to take more...

    of course, they ignore the other side of the world, where the US and Britain stood firm and refused to appease Japan... which only emboldened them to take more.

    Just goes to show there isn't an easy answer that's one-size-fits-all.  But the neocons think there is, and they feel certain they've got it.

    Nobody deserves poverty.

    by nominalize on Fri Aug 15, 2014 at 09:51:39 AM PDT

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    •  people were genuinely scared of Hitler (5+ / 0-)

      WWI was well within living memory, and in the midst of an equally unprecedented depression - with populations ready for communist or fascist revolution - no-one was in the mood for another war.  Hitler's army went on to conquer all of Europe in 2 years and lost only 30,000 men in the process, so their fears were arguably justified.  London and Moscow also needed time to build up their own militaries for the war absolutely they knew was coming; so did the US if you buy the idea that Washington wanted in on the game from the beginning.  Taken at face value, Hitler's early demands were not themselves unreasonable; historically and heavily German lands had been vengefully carved off by the Treaty of Versailles and Austria was a rump state left over from Europe's second largest country pre-1918.  Germany was also in a bad place economically, with its industrial heartland de facto ceded to France and enormous war reparations - required to be paid in gold - fueling the monetary crisis.  

      Domestic politics is the continuation of civil war by other means.

      by Visceral on Fri Aug 15, 2014 at 11:25:27 AM PDT

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