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  •  And don't forget: millions will vote against her (16+ / 0-)

    There are a lot of independents and enormous blocks of conservatives that will try to keep her out of the White House unlike just about any other Democrat that you can name.  People who don't usually vote will come out to vote against her.  

    And nothing she can do will change that for those people. Which probably puts her a few percentage points down from the start even if she campaigns well compared to any other candidate we might come up with. While some of the baggage is dirty tricks played against her, some of it she has loaded onto herself. I'm not convinced that she will be an effective campaigner in the general. Hillary couldn't beat a barely known (but politically astute) jr. Senator from Illinois.

    And if she continues her battleground state / uberfailing DLC tactics AGAIN, I'd say subtract an entire 10% from her final election count in the general compared to any other Dem.

    •  There's a diary on the Recent List.. (0+ / 0-)

      ...that contends a Republican group has formed to back Hillary.

      No links to any references, the diarist has three comments to his name, all Tip Jars.

      No linky. I won't send people to bullshit.

      Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

      by JeffW on Sun Aug 17, 2014 at 07:43:12 PM PDT

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      •  I think it was referencing (0+ / 0-)

        The fact that republicans doing crazy and awful things unintentionally build support for the democrat in 2016, presumed to be Hillary.

        Least that's what I got out of it. And from that perspective, it wasn't half bad

        "Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek." - Barack Obama

        by anshmishra on Sun Aug 17, 2014 at 10:33:01 PM PDT

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