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  •  If He Was Trying to Get Away (0+ / 0-)

    It would make perfect sense, and he had no idea the cop didn't know about the robbery.

    I'm not defending the cop's actions, by any means, but there are some problems with the "conventional wisdom" here, starting with the oft-repeated "gentle giant" bullshit.

    Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.

    by The Baculum King on Fri Aug 15, 2014 at 03:45:27 PM PDT

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    •  The gentle giant thing (0+ / 0-)

      It's something a mom or loved one would say. I blame the lawyers for doing a crappy job of not doing their due diligence and focusing this on the incident and not present the kid as an angel. They should have stuck with a "no one is perfect, but he never did anything that deserved to get him shot". I mean, how could the family not know of what happened before. Didn't the friend warn the family what their son did? Why didn't the family lawyers get the friend to tell them what happened at the store so they wouldn't be blindsided?

      I had  a feeling something like this would happen which is why I put out a comment before this disclosure that the lawyers need to focus on vetting all witnesses and get the real story. Then this revelation would have not resonated among moderates. A lot of us who come here haven't bought the dirty ploy by the police. But a lot of non political folk out there right now are saying the kid on some level is party culpable.

      •  The Autopsy Report Will Be Next (0+ / 0-)

        If you look closely at the picture of the body in the street there's no sign of shots in the back, WHICH STILL DOESN'T EXONERATE THE COP.

        I know from experience what I'm opening myself up to here, but this shit is going to be asked.

        For what it's worth, I'm not trying to justify the shooting OR the police response to the protests.

        Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.

        by The Baculum King on Fri Aug 15, 2014 at 04:00:32 PM PDT

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        •  No worries (0+ / 0-)

          I have been and continue to be one of the most militant people in seeking action against the killer cop and I have no problem people bringin up a devils advocate. One reason why I am comfortable with this.  If his behavior had any relevance to the cop encounter, why wouldn't they say that 4 days earlier? The chief back then said it was jaywalking. And then he tries to insinuate a connection, and then he has to revert back to his original statement that it was only jaywalking. But then he now says, the cop might have seen the cigars and made an instant connection. SO WHY DIDNT THE CHIEF SAY THAT BACK THEN? Wouldn't something that big have been disclosed by the killer cop immediately? This shop thing was purely an after the fact discovery and now the chief is trying to use it take heat off of the cop.

          But I keep telling our own people on the progressive side. There is no need to exaggerate anything when you are in the right. Hell, if trhe lawyers vetted this incident, we mght actually find out something even more innocuous., What if that shoplifting was a mere prank or dare of sorts. It doesn't look very planned what he did. It does not excuse him at all.

          We need to be more disciplined if we are going to win these battles. The lawyers dropped the  ball.  

          •  It Appears to Me Nothing is Too Simple (0+ / 0-)

            For the Ferguson Police to fuck up.

            But the dominant narrative of the week, of the gentle giant shot down helpless in the street, is starting to crumble, which may well allow the deflection of the heat for both the killing and the response.

            Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.

            by The Baculum King on Fri Aug 15, 2014 at 04:17:43 PM PDT

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            •  Oh really? (1+ / 0-)
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              So an unarmed 18-year-old is shot to death by a cop, yet you think the "dominant narrative" is starting to crumble.

              He was shot to death by a cop who, according to the police themselves, had no idea Brown had been involved in anything.  Involvement in a little boosting from a store wouldn't justify murder anyway, but the cop didn't even know that much.  

              You criticize the Ferguson police for fucking up, but they've succeeded brilliantly with you.  They knew that video and their accusations would play on the deeply embedded racist assumptions white people have about young black men.  And look, here you are, asking whether Brown was angelic enough to pass the test that young black men apparently have to pass just to make sure they don't get gunned down for no good reason.  

              "Ça c'est une chanson que j'aurais vraiment aimé ne pas avoir écrite." -- Barbara

              by FogCityJohn on Fri Aug 15, 2014 at 08:43:08 PM PDT

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