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  •  Curious (0+ / 0-)

    Ahianne, I'm not familiar with Anthony's book.

    It seems to me these countries have a common ancestral language because the people speaking the indo aryan languages moved about.  They used horses and so could move long distances;  since they were displacing earlier inhabitants who tried to protect their turf, the people moved as groups.  

    Seems logical to conclude that the Celts were groups of IA's that went West.

    A more recent example would be the Alains.  Strange tale that.

    Maybe I'll be convinced if I read Anthony, or I'm missing a nuance, but I just cannot see that trade would account for so many similarities.   Its got to be groups of people moving  and conquering to have so much influence on the languages.

    “Everyone is ignorant, only on different subjects.” ― Will Rogers

    by MugWumpBlues on Sun Aug 17, 2014 at 09:25:44 AM PDT

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    •  It's not trade. (0+ / 0-)

      It's not one subgroup, the Celts, moving around. It's a whole bunch of languages descended from a common ancestral language. And among language scholars, Indo-Aryan is a synonym for Indo-Iranian - the subgroup of Indo-European speakers that went south and east towards India and Iran, as well as some who stayed on the ancestral steppes until supplanted by/assimilated by speakers of Turkic languages.

      Yes, people from the original homeland of the Indo-European speakers moved out in several directions and split up into the various IE families that exist now, as well as several that died out. Sometimes they conquered other groups. There's some evidence for more peaceful assimilation of others at other times and places. No, the Celts are not Indo-Aryans who went west. They are a different branch on the IE tree, close to the Italic branch.

      Cogito, ergo Democrata.

      by Ahianne on Sun Aug 17, 2014 at 07:41:05 PM PDT

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    •  Oh, and where did the reference (0+ / 0-) trade come from anyway? There was nothing in my initial comment about trade.

      Cogito, ergo Democrata.

      by Ahianne on Sun Aug 17, 2014 at 07:45:12 PM PDT

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