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  •  as a matter of fact... (4+ / 0-)
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    fcvaguy, Yasuragi, timewarp, rduran

    ... I know a few more things about this than have been reported, and I would say it was highly likely he knew he was dealing with a kid who had serious troubles.

    Second, the very fact of a 40-something guy manipulating a kid who's not even old enough to legally drink a beer, is inherently detestable.  

    This aspect has been widely reported:  

    Manning started out releasing only the Iraq war video showing civilian casualties.  That, in and of itself, was arguably a legitimate whistle-blow because it involved an issue that was clearly a subject for a public debate about our policy in Iraq.  

    Assange encouraged Manning to think of (then) himself as someone who could save us from horrible things, if he would keep digging and keep leaking.  IMHO, classic spy manipulation of a source.  Assange's interactions with Manning resulted in Manning going on a manic romp through classified territory and bringing back "all that stuff," some of which was arguably legitimate whistle-blowing, some of which was actively harmful, and a great deal of which was just downright banal.  

    Really: what good does it do if we all know that Ambassador So-And-So doesn't like the Ambassador from Such-And-Such country because the latter is given to picking his nose at meetings?

    And for that, a kid sits in a cell.  

    Which is why I think Assange, if he had any honor, would offer to switch places with Manning.  

    We got the future back. Uh-oh.

    by G2geek on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 06:00:16 AM PDT

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    •  I saw that from the start (3+ / 0-)
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      Assange had an agenda and it didn't include the best welfare of Pvt Manning.  Manning is where she is now because of Wikileaks

      Happy just to be alive

      by exlrrp on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 06:11:11 AM PDT

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    •  Nobody deserves what Manning got (1+ / 0-)
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      at least not for leaking the information Manning did (none of it top secret).

      My problem with Assange is that he's not very articulate. He was unclear about what his goals were when he was involved in Wikileaks. Snowden on the other hand (whether you agree with him or not) is a very articulate guy.

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