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  •  Are you willing to assign equal blame (8+ / 0-)

    to the police violence?

    •  Does it matter (1+ / 0-)
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      what Catskill Julie is willing or not willing to do in assigning blame?

      Is it always a all or nothing stand that we have to take?

      There will be no humanity without forgiveness. There will be no forgiveness without justice. But justice will be impossible without humanity. – Yolande Mukagasana

      by kishik on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 07:18:13 AM PDT

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    •  I am a strong opponent of militarization of police (6+ / 0-)

      forces -- was long before those who are just now catching on -- drug war property seizures, and the corportization of our news media which exacerbates the problem. I take a back seat to no one in that regard.

      I urge all citizens to call and make complaints to their civilian complaint review board or whatever the local equivilent is, even when the excessive force was only seen on TV or youtube. I filed several such complaints during the excessive force used during the NYC occupy actions. Those complaints must be reviewed and the disapproval of the citizens does have an impact.

      The NYC police have been turned into a pretorian guard for Wall St. as has been covered  But long before that, Guilliani encouraged the thuggish elements of the NYPD to take precedence--he encouraged the "us vs them" attitude toward ALL citizens, as opposed to "protect and serve"communitarian attitude.

      I was a witness to a true police riot in Tompkins Square Park years ago, as innocent neighbors out and about on a warm night were chased and herded from block to block by out of town cops, mounted police and helicopters. Inside the park there had been some bottles thrown. But as the cops reacted riotously, we neighborhood folks couldn't get to our own buildings. Like the people in Ferguson last week, we simply could not find a safe way home.

      Unlike Ferguson, the local 9th Pct cops were not the problem. They understood the neighborhood. It was all the cops from other Pcts, even other counties, and the police leadership that enabled the police riot.

      The PBA has taken the position that no action by a cop can be questioned, no matter how egregious. PBA has been allowed to threaten and intimidate everyone from citizens to electeds and MUST be reigned in also.

      Okay, the Government says you MUST abort your child. NOW do you get it?

      by Catskill Julie on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 08:23:24 AM PDT

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      •  Closing Down the Park- Blues Traveler (1+ / 0-)
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        Wrote a song about the Tompkins Square "episode". I can't locate a youtube video, but the lyrics are here:
        http://www.dicelacancion.com/...

        Part of Lyrics:

        Rich man smells smoke, he smells something burning green
        doesn't like the odor, better put some badges on the scene
        put a blue suit on everybody you see hangin' round
        and if that don't work, we're gonna close that park
        but anyway
        yesterday a man was busted trying to walk his dog
        cop didn't like his attitude, say that he was against the law
        shoot everybody with a mutt this side of the town
        and if that don't work, we're gonna close that park

        Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable-John F. Kennedy

        by TexasTwister on Tue Aug 19, 2014 at 11:41:20 AM PDT

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