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  •  I realize it's probably an exercise in futility... (8+ / 0-)

    but I'm still waiting for cable news to acknowledge that it's looking like Michael Brown paid for those Cigarillos after all.

    They really can't let go of a narrative these days... even if that narrative has been proven false.

    "If one would give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I would find something in them to have him hanged." - 17th-century French clergyman and statesman Cardinal Richelieu.

    by markthshark on Thu Aug 21, 2014 at 06:15:56 AM PDT

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    •  That's not a road (6+ / 0-)

      we want to go down. Darion Johnson has already told the FBI that they took the cigarillos. His attorney has confirmed it on Sharpton's show and in a statement to the NYT.

      Darion Johnson's testimony about the shooting might be crucial to prosecuring Wilson. Do we really want to be challenging his credibility?

      There are a lot of things wrong with the way this case is being spun, but that does not appear to be one of them. At this point, even Brown's family is not challenging the shoplifting story. And it's totally irrelevant to this kid getting shot down in the street.

      Focus on the shooting. Eyes on the prize.

      •  John Oliver was right (10+ / 0-)

        the theft is completely irrelevant.  Period.

        you can shit on my face but that doesn't mean I have to lick my lips

        by red rabbit on Thu Aug 21, 2014 at 06:55:14 AM PDT

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      •  Johnson could have assumed... (1+ / 0-)
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        He was standing back from the counter nearly the entire time. And it's not like he was tall enough to see over Brown's shoulder. It's speculation but it's all we've got.

        Almost no one questions the original narrative. Why is that?

        If it was indeed a theft, then why wasn't it reported to the FPD by the shop owner/clerk? It was a customer who informed the FPD. (possibly after the shooting incident occurred) And why was the owner surprised when the FPD requested the cam footage?

        And we still don't know how the altercation between Brown and the store-owner started

        The answers to those questions don't really matter in the actual shooting incident. But they just might go far to combat the thugification (HT-Vyan) of Michael Brown.

        By not asking the right questions, at this point in time, cable news is aiding Officer Wilson and the FPD in the ongoing demonization of Michael Brown.

        "If one would give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I would find something in them to have him hanged." - 17th-century French clergyman and statesman Cardinal Richelieu.

        by markthshark on Thu Aug 21, 2014 at 07:32:18 AM PDT

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        •  I fear the mission has been accomplished (6+ / 0-)

          re: thugification, and even if the story is proven false, those who want to believe otherwise will cling to that belief.

          You see, there are still faint glimmers of civilization left in this barbaric slaughterhouse that was once known as humanity. Indeed that's what we provide in our own modest, humble, insignificant... oh, fuck it. -- M. Gustave

          by Eagles92 on Thu Aug 21, 2014 at 07:44:52 AM PDT

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        •  It was reported- (0+ / 0-)

          the incident report has been posted here, and the owner indicated "intent to prosecute". The witness who called it in gave an account of what she saw.
          The owner didn't want the cam footage released because he was afraid of retaliation. But the cops, of course, didn't listen.

      •  Took is not the same as stole. (0+ / 0-)

        Took is not the same as stole.

        •  His attorney told the NYT: (0+ / 0-)
          A lawyer for Mr. Johnson said that his client was interviewed by the F.B.I. and the St. Louis County police last week for nearly four hours. In that interview, Mr. Johnson admitted that he and Mr. Brown had stolen cigarillos from the store, said the lawyer, Freeman R. Bosley Jr.
          •  NYT is not reliable. (0+ / 0-)

            Lawrence O'Donnell took them to task last night for lying about the case and for repeating police department leaks that are proved lies.

            Corporations, which should be the carefully restrained creatures of the law and the servants of the people, are fast becoming the people’s masters. -- President Grover Cleveland, 1888

            by edg on Thu Aug 21, 2014 at 09:51:33 AM PDT

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            •  I know they screwed up that story- (0+ / 0-)

              I watched Last Word last night. But they were just one source for the shoplifting story- the attorney told Al Sharpton the same thing on air:

              http://www.msnbc.com/...

              Forgot to write down the time but it comes in somewhere around the five minute mark.

              And I'll say once again- we need to focus on the shooting itself. The right wing wants to talk about the shoplifting and make it the focus when it absolutely is not.

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