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  •  No, it is different here. (2+ / 0-)
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    commonmass, GrannyRedBird

    There actually were people like Revolutionary Communist Party trying to use young black men as cannon fodder for revolutionary fantasies.  Fine to blame violence on outsiders.  Not Ferguson, not St. Louis black folks.  

    It is in the interest of protesters and Nixon to use this language.  No doubt, some violence was home grown, but we're all going to act as if it were outsiders being violent and the peaceful folks are black folks in Ferguson and St. Louis.  

    Not blaming outside agitators for demonstrations and unrest.  Blaming them for violence.

    Talks about protecting right to peaceful demonstration.   Going forward, exaggerating outsiders is useful to movement for justice for Michael Brown.

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    by TomP on Thu Aug 21, 2014 at 11:23:03 AM PDT

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    •  It is no different from any other "race riot" (0+ / 0-)

      and I am truly shocked at your defense of keeping outsiders out of these situations. Please, I don't want to year your take on the Freedom Riders.

      I don't think you meant what you actually wrote. I'd try it again.

      "To take another person's life from the bench is no better than to take another person's life from the street"

      by commonmass on Thu Aug 21, 2014 at 11:26:49 AM PDT

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      •  You do not understand at all. (1+ / 0-)
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        commonmass

        This was not a "race riot."  

        If you follow Antonio French and othe rblack folks here you would understand more.

        I was not describing the freedom riders. How dare you insult me.

        You have no idea of what you are talking about.  No one is keeping "outsiders" out of anything. I explained real tactics to you but you are so damn white and into yourself to understand.  

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        by TomP on Thu Aug 21, 2014 at 11:32:39 AM PDT

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      •  This was not my take on the Freedom Riders. (1+ / 0-)
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        commonmass

        That was a lie that you wrote and insulting,  You owe me an apology.  Who the fuck do you think you are?

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        by TomP on Thu Aug 21, 2014 at 11:34:01 AM PDT

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        •  I clearly mis-read your comment, and (3+ / 0-)
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          I'm sorry for that.

          As for who I think I am, I think I am the kind of white person who understands the limits of privilege by virtue of being gay, and existing in a family that has intermarried with other races. Including myself.

          I also think that I am on your side, and I misread your comment, for which I apologize.

          There's something we always say in the LGBT community: "don't alienate your allies".

          "To take another person's life from the bench is no better than to take another person's life from the street"

          by commonmass on Thu Aug 21, 2014 at 11:39:42 AM PDT

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          •  Apology accepted. I apologize also. (3+ / 0-)
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            commonmass, polecat, magsview

            I've always liked you and now like you even more.  :-)  Take care, my friend.

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            by TomP on Thu Aug 21, 2014 at 11:53:50 AM PDT

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            •  Look, this kind of shit happens when we (5+ / 0-)

              discuss very serious stuff like Ferguson, and the history that surrounds it. People read stuff the wrong way or disagree, people who are naturally allies.

              Shit happens. By the way, I've always liked you and NOW I like you even more. ;)

              "To take another person's life from the bench is no better than to take another person's life from the street"

              by commonmass on Thu Aug 21, 2014 at 11:58:42 AM PDT

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              •  You two stay out of the I/P diaries, ok? (3+ / 0-)
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                commonmass, wrights, Sylv

                God only knows how bad it would get with the two of you violently agreeing and sh*t.

                Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
                I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
                —Spike Milligan

                by polecat on Thu Aug 21, 2014 at 12:18:13 PM PDT

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                •  I got a time out for expressing my opinion (1+ / 0-)
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                  there, in an I/P diary and defending David Harris Gershon.

                  Trust me, this half-jew is done with anything that has to do with I/P.

                  "To take another person's life from the bench is no better than to take another person's life from the street"

                  by commonmass on Thu Aug 21, 2014 at 12:21:11 PM PDT

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