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  •  You both have a good point (2+ / 0-)
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    slipper, kfunk937

    OrganicChemist  feels somewhat the same.  Now, let's say you do just that.  It is a great idea on paper and, in decades past would have had a good chance of working.

    Imagine the open carry advocates challenged by such a law; also the so called "militias" that I spoke about.  It is just the impetus they would need to build a movement together.  

    I'm not saying we should not do just that (as you say, we won't).  It is the mine field that lies between here and there.  Does the hope lie with individual states?  Maybe.  I'm sure not knowledgeable enough to even know where to start.  Maybe not an impossible dream however.  

    So, there's two hands for yea... anymore?

    "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.” — William Arthur Ward

    by cowdab on Fri Aug 22, 2014 at 03:02:22 PM PDT

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    •  The individual states (2+ / 0-)
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      divineorder, vernonbc

      is the problem. Before the current idiots took over the Supreme Court, there were several gun bans in place, including in DC, Chicago, and San Francisco. A few states like New Jersey and Maryland have a virtual ban on taking a gun outside your house.

      But still, because gun laws are by individual states, it is way to easy to smuggle guns in from neighboring states.

      Maryland and DC have this with Virginia, New Jersey has it with Pennsylvania, etc. While gun-control states do mostly have firearm-death rates that are lower than the gun-loving states, the rates are still far too high. Gun control is working, but it's success is limited by the ability to easily transport guns across state lines.

      It needs to be a federal ban to be a complete success.

      •  By your own admission a federal gun ban didn't (0+ / 0-)

        work in Mexico.

        Gun bans haven't worked in Chicago, DC, or San Fran either.
        It's a tall order to suggest that because of the failures of gun control, we need more of it.

        Meanwhile, despite the repeal of gun ban policies recently San Fran is on pace to have their lowest murder rate in years.

      •  Just a little correction (0+ / 0-)
        there were several gun bans in place, including in DC, Chicago, and San Francisco.
        Not quite. In SF then mayor Feinstein wrote an intentionally unconstitutional gun ban, (CA state constitution) then didn't even sent a lawyer to defend it when it was challenged. It was a blatant publicity stunt.
        Personal note: I was parked in a cab stand across the street from 101 Cal that day. I will never vote for Feinstein.

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