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  •  It does seem like a Sisyphean task (12+ / 0-)

    And I agree that the period when white people become the minority is when we are likely to see substantive change. At the same time, I can't justify to myself just sitting back and having nothing to say about it.

    Two hundred fifty years of slavery. Ninety years of Jim Crow. Sixty years of separate but equal. Thirty-five years of racist housing policy. Until we reckon with our compounding moral debts, America will never be whole. - Ta-Nehisi Coates

    by moviemeister76 on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 06:49:11 AM PDT

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    •  What's to say? (3+ / 0-)

      Its awful? Ok. It is. What to do? Another senseless march? Meh.

      I figure we will just have to wait it out and that's about it. Give it another 50 years or so. Our posterity will wonder why we were so stupid and that will be that.

    •  I'm not even sure that it will change that much (4+ / 0-)
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      when whites become minorities- not overnight anyways. There are plenty of minorities that have managed to retain power throughout history. White power is pretty well shored up in this country. Whites are the minority in Ferguson, and we can see what good that did the local AA population.

    •  The world changes slowly (4+ / 0-)
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      but it does change. And the only real change comes from the young. You and I may not live to see it, but as I observe the teenagers passing through my classes, I have seen a real shift.

       Three decades ago, when I began teaching in an "alternative" high school, black-white animosity was taken for granted by many students. Now it's distinctly "not cool" and I see quite a few friendships that cross all sorts of boundaries, including color.

      Yesterday's teenagers are the young voters who support equal rights for LGBT people today. I suspect that the generation growing up right now will see race quite  differently than their parents do. It's a slow process, but teenagers always question the wisdom of their elders. I get to see some of the most rebellious ones--and the brightest ones--and what I see is mostly encouraging.

      •  I don't really see this (6+ / 0-)

        I just graduated college in December. What I saw in the years I attended was  white students who thought racism was wrong, but took a distinctly "colorblind" approach to life. This resulted in them being oblivious to systemic racism and the results.

        Two hundred fifty years of slavery. Ninety years of Jim Crow. Sixty years of separate but equal. Thirty-five years of racist housing policy. Until we reckon with our compounding moral debts, America will never be whole. - Ta-Nehisi Coates

        by moviemeister76 on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 10:31:49 AM PDT

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        •  When I first started teaching (3+ / 0-)
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          a white kid (girl) punched a black kid (boy) one day for simply saying "good morning." The girl was a constant troublemaker, and the boy was a shy, studious person. I sent the girl to the Principal's office, and the Principal couldn't understand why I had done it. ("The boy must have done something wrong.")

          Because I taught both kids, I was allowed to discuss the situation, and we finally agreed that ordinary politeness was something to be encouraged in ALL situations, and that the girl had to apologize to the boy. It took a lot to get the principal to stand behind me, though.

          Now the situation is much different, and I see lots of cross-racial friendships at school. They may be casual, and they may not amount to much out of school, but the ordinary social rules have shifted considerably, and I hope they will continue to do so.

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