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  •  You know this is going to start a piefight flam... (19+ / 0-)

    You know this is going to start a piefight flamewar. Watch the fans scream at the top of their lungs how awful Cornel West is.

    •  Anything to put down our African American (14+ / 0-)

      president from the white progressives.  Have fun on the day Michael Brown Jr. is put to rest.  President Obama sent three WH representatives to the funeral and his DOJ is investigating.  

      Join us on the Black Kos front porch to review news and views written from a black pov—everyone is welcome.

      by TomP on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 07:51:25 AM PDT

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      •  So you put down a prominent African American (27+ / 0-)

        public intellectual in response.  Perhaps you might address any one of the following assertions of Prof. West's:

        1. Torturers went free;
        2. Wall Street crooks went free;
        3. War criminals went free;
        4. Our school systems are in deep trouble; and
        5. Our political leaders are bought off w/ legalized bribery.

        Do you contest any of those assertions?  If so, why?

        Some men see things as they are and ask why. I dream of things that never were and ask why not?

        by RFK Lives on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 07:58:06 AM PDT

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        •  The Charade Can't Continue Forever (15+ / 0-)

          It would be one thing if we only had 1-2 critical problems being ignored, but we have what? a dozen?

          Just how does anyone, unless in severe denial, think we're going to survive long term as a nation? what of the British empire? the Dutch? Spanish?

          "We are beyond law, which is not unusual for an empire; unfortunately, we are also beyond common sense." Gore Vidal

          by Superpole on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 08:15:17 AM PDT

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        •  I'm only interested in the "we were fooled by O" (0+ / 0-)

          accusation.   Mostly because it's pathetic and working to actually prevent any advancement on any front, but also because it's what excites you so much.

          That one's made up, as we all know.

          Someone actually admitted on DK, "Yes. If it pisses you and the other Greenwald-Tweet-pearl-clutchers off, it's smart." Wow. Just....wow.

          by Inland on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 08:31:07 AM PDT

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          •  You're only interested in that one because… (6+ / 0-)

            …you have no answers for the others.




            Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ Garcia

            by DeadHead on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 12:47:52 PM PDT

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            •  What are you blabbering about now? (0+ / 0-)

              Go ask your mommy for a dollar so you can go buy yourself a point.  

              Someone actually admitted on DK, "Yes. If it pisses you and the other Greenwald-Tweet-pearl-clutchers off, it's smart." Wow. Just....wow.

              by Inland on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 12:53:41 PM PDT

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              •  I'm blabbering about your inability… (4+ / 0-)

                …to address any of those other items.

                You aren't able to, so you resort to puerile comebacks.




                Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ Garcia

                by DeadHead on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 01:13:49 PM PDT

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                •  It's not a remedial class. (2+ / 0-)
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                  ord avg guy, duhban

                  Go find someone who thinks it is his mission to engage every creep who has the mental capacity to add a question mark at the end of a sentence.  

                  Someone actually admitted on DK, "Yes. If it pisses you and the other Greenwald-Tweet-pearl-clutchers off, it's smart." Wow. Just....wow.

                  by Inland on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 01:44:15 PM PDT

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                  •  ROFL!!! (1+ / 0-)
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                    duhban

                    BTW - Nice sig.

                    If Liberals hated America, we'd vote Republican.

                    by ord avg guy on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 02:00:43 PM PDT

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                    •  That was Deadhead answering a question (2+ / 0-)
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                      ord avg guy, duhban

                      but I figure you were able to guess.  

                      But he still thinks that I have to pretend he's asking me questions in good faith and not just trolling.

                      Pretty amazing how he buys the bullshit he's peddling even though nobody else does.

                      Someone actually admitted on DK, "Yes. If it pisses you and the other Greenwald-Tweet-pearl-clutchers off, it's smart." Wow. Just....wow.

                      by Inland on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 02:04:37 PM PDT

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                      •  That's his shtick when he wants to pretend (2+ / 0-)
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                        Inland, duhban

                        that he's actually interested in policy and politics - pretend to ask questions in good faith and then try to smear you for not doing his bidding by answering his bullshit questions (I almost feel sorry for him with his inability to recognize how blatantly transparent he is).

                        It's one of the very few plays in the DH trolling playbook.

                        If Liberals hated America, we'd vote Republican.

                        by ord avg guy on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 02:13:45 PM PDT

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                        •  Heh. Check out this illustrative DH fail: (2+ / 0-)
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                          ord avg guy, duhban

                          Someone actually admitted on DK, "Yes. If it pisses you and the other Greenwald-Tweet-pearl-clutchers off, it's smart." Wow. Just....wow.

                          by Inland on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 02:41:07 PM PDT

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                          •  LMAO (2+ / 0-)
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                            poco, cybrestrike

                            What's so illustrative of failure about that?

                            God, you're embarrassing.




                            Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ Garcia

                            by DeadHead on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 04:01:11 PM PDT

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                          •  And another bad faith question. (2+ / 0-)
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                            ord avg guy, duhban

                            Here, let me explain it to you like you really wanted an answer:

                            Your attempt to continue "conversation" without having enough character to use a declarative sentence is creepy and pathetic.

                            Hope that cleared it up.  If not, feel free to ask someone else what your problem is.  

                            Someone actually admitted on DK, "Yes. If it pisses you and the other Greenwald-Tweet-pearl-clutchers off, it's smart." Wow. Just....wow.

                            by Inland on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 04:09:19 PM PDT

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                          •  Ha ha. (1+ / 0-)
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                            cybrestrike

                            A three word question about something someone said in a comment is "bad faith."

                            I can see why you would think that.




                            Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ Garcia

                            by DeadHead on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 07:59:46 PM PDT

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                          •  No DeadHead. (0+ / 0-)

                            That fact that you posted it is empirical evidence that the question was in "bad faith".

                            Do you understand now?

                            If Liberals hated America, we'd vote Republican.

                            by ord avg guy on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 08:08:17 PM PDT

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                          •  The pathetic irony of you telling (0+ / 0-)

                            Inland that he's embarrassing - HAHAHAHA

                            Thank you for that DeadHead!! ROFL

                            If Liberals hated America, we'd vote Republican.

                            by ord avg guy on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 04:19:59 PM PDT

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                          •  You're welcome. (0+ / 0-)

                            I'm not too concerned about being wrong on this one, given the company you keep.

                            You, Inland, and duhban.

                            Team Dead-Ender.




                            Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ Garcia

                            by DeadHead on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 08:07:21 PM PDT

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                          •  Sadly for you... (0+ / 0-)

                            the company you keep is, for the most part, banned, NR and/or self-deported. Say "Hi" to your buddies down at the Hollow for me, DeadHead. How's my pal poligirl doing? Do you miss having 4ked around to tag team with? Does it give you a sad that TMC isn't here to uprate every shitty comment you post? Do you miss destroying Ray's diaries with your self-serving pie fighting? I feel so sorry for you DeadHead. Clearly your dead-ender accustaion is projection on your part given the facts of the situation.

                            I'm not sure how durban is part of the "dead-ender" equation. There is a group of asshole bullies on this site that have obsessively been attacking duhban for over a year and he's still here and a trusted user. Seems like the assholes that have failed in running him off are the dead-enders, DeadHead. You'd have to agree that your failure to bully someone off this site has been a complete fucking failure in duhban's case. Total fail. A year long effort that continues to FAIL. Your effort. Your bullying. You own that failure DeadHead.

                            Keep bullying and badgering duhban, DeadHead. I'm sure you'll eventually stop being a complete fucking failure in your very un-liberal and dickish attempts at getting duhban to STFU. Just because you've been a total failure for the last year don't let that stop you. Doing the same shit over and over abd over and expecting different results is completely acceptable for you DeadHead. You've got this much time devoted to being an obsessive bully you may as well keep doing what you do.

                            Jerry is very very proud of the way you bully duhban. He told me that being a bully asshole is what being a real Deadhead is all about. Kudos DeadHead. Keep up the awesome work.

                            If Liberals hated America, we'd vote Republican.

                            by ord avg guy on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 08:25:04 PM PDT

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                          •  Meh (0+ / 0-)

                            I'm doing just fine.

                            In fact here are all my comments since 06/02/2014, the day "my friends" were banned, ordered by highest number of recs to lowest.

                            Looks like my base of support is bigger than you claim it is.

                            It's funny that you had to go after others in trying to impugn me. That's because I've never been banned, timed-out or NR'd, personally.

                            Nice try, but not good enough.

                            Failure is your forte.




                            Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ Garcia

                            by DeadHead on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 10:41:21 PM PDT

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                          •  Meh (1+ / 0-)
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                            Inland

                            You thought you could attack me with your pathetic little "dead-ender" accusation. You failed. Just like your bullying of duhban. Fail. Just like your trolling of liberals. Fail. Just like your defense of CTer Pensador. Fail. Just like your rabid defense of racist dog whistler Rall. Fail. Just like you being a grown up and owning your words and actions. Fail. Just like you posting something truthful. Fail. Just like your credibility. Failed. Failure defines you.

                            You've devoted all this time to bullying and trolling and you're still failing. Sad and pathetic.

                            Jerry and duhban are laughing at your failure.

                            If Liberals hated America, we'd vote Republican.

                            by ord avg guy on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 04:49:39 AM PDT

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                          •  He's so pathetic when he gets out of (1+ / 0-)
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                            Inland

                            the shallow end of the pool. MOst of his enablers are banned, NRed or self-deported so he's especially lonely lately.

                            It seems to be making him take his troll routine into uncharted waters and falling flat on his face. He's racking up the fails faster than Ray Pensador gets HRed in his own diary.

                            If Liberals hated America, we'd vote Republican.

                            by ord avg guy on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 04:18:22 PM PDT

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                          •  Even funnier, Loge gave a serious, well thought (0+ / 0-)

                            out answer to the question that DeadHead pretended he wanted an answer to.....at which point, Deadhead disappears.  

                            MOst of his enablers are banned, NRed or self-deported so he's especially lonely lately.
                            But but but he stays on dkos because all his friends are here!  Or so he implied.  

                            Someone actually admitted on DK, "Yes. If it pisses you and the other Greenwald-Tweet-pearl-clutchers off, it's smart." Wow. Just....wow.

                            by Inland on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 06:58:15 PM PDT

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                        •  You'll be okay, ord. (0+ / 0-)

                          You don't need to start monitoring my reply page, again.

                          Go read and rec some diaries. You know, something more productive than being butthurt.




                          Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ Garcia

                          by DeadHead on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 04:05:56 PM PDT

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                          •  Sorry DeadHead. (0+ / 0-)

                            YOu don't ever get to tell me what I can and can't do.

                            And frankly DeadHead, as a sad pathetic person who has spent insane amounts of time going through others comment histories, you are the last person on this site who needs to telling anyone what they can and can't do.

                            Clearly you keep coming at me because you are the "butthurt" one. HAHAHAHA

                            Sorry I was so honest with you. I know you hate that but you need to hear it. It's for your own good.

                            Jerry says "change your ways".

                            If Liberals hated America, we'd vote Republican.

                            by ord avg guy on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 04:24:44 PM PDT

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                          •  Nothing could be funnier than "go read something" (1+ / 0-)
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                            ord avg guy

                            from Deadhead.  He doesn't even read the diaries he appears in to "ask questions", much less something exotic like a newspaper.

                            Someone actually admitted on DK, "Yes. If it pisses you and the other Greenwald-Tweet-pearl-clutchers off, it's smart." Wow. Just....wow.

                            by Inland on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 06:41:39 PM PDT

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                          •  Everything he knows he gets from (0+ / 0-)

                            skimming a bobswern diary.

                            If Liberals hated America, we'd vote Republican.

                            by ord avg guy on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 08:03:21 PM PDT

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                          •  At least he writes diaries. (0+ / 0-)

                            Unlike you and Inland.

                            You guys can fling a mean turd, though.




                            Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ Garcia

                            by DeadHead on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 08:18:49 PM PDT

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                          •  Oh noes... (0+ / 0-)

                            Not the oldie but goodie DeadHead attack "you don't post diaries!" ROFL. You really are the gift that keeps on giving tonight, DeadHead. Entertainment at it's finest.

                            You are really flailing now, DeadHead. Your tired little attack is nothing more than a sad and pathetic deflection of the fact that you don't really give a shit about anything other than flinging poo.

                            Nice try though, DeadHead. Thanks for playing little buddy!

                            It really sad that this is how you would choose to spend your birthday. If the deal is that Inland and I are the only people left who will still talk to you just let me know. For your birthday I might give you a break and call out a little less of your bullshit.

                            If Liberals hated America, we'd vote Republican.

                            by ord avg guy on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 08:33:32 PM PDT

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                          •  Why did you come in here AFTER me, ord? (0+ / 0-)

                            To start shit.

                            The timestamps don't lie.

                            Your first comment was at 02:00:43 PM PDT, "ROFLing" at me to Inland. Your second comment was you shit-talking about me. Almost all of your comments in this diary are you starting shit or back-slapping Inland's dickhead comments.  

                            As opposed to my first comment, which was at 11:29:38 AM PDT to Inland, asking him to clarify the comment I was replying to.

                            I was here two and a half hours before you.

                            Hope that clears things up.




                            Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ Garcia

                            by DeadHead on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 11:34:22 PM PDT

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                          •  Wrong again, DeadHaed. (0+ / 0-)

                            ROFLing at Inland's comment isn't ROFLing at you. You came here to start shit with Inland. Just like you trolled me in the last diary to start shit with me. You are the shit sytarter. You're the one trolling.

                            If you don't like the responses to your trolling perhaps you should consider stopping your trolling. Sorry that the facts fuck up your revisionism.

                            :(

                            If Liberals hated America, we'd vote Republican.

                            by ord avg guy on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 04:25:47 AM PDT

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                          •  Well, consider it from his troll point of view (1+ / 0-)
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                            ord avg guy

                            He looks forward to an MO of him and his "friends" ganging up on a lone poster in a dead thread.

                            Having someone else show up is surprising and disappointing, as is the fact his "friends" are NRd, banned or finding hobbies better than enabling him.

                            So you see how a troll would see himself the victim in all this.

                            Sorta the same way JVolvo and Clive see red when I comment on The Great Duhban Hunt.  Not only do they get mad that someone's pointing out their obsession, it ruins the piling on.

                            Someone actually admitted on DK, "Yes. If it pisses you and the other Greenwald-Tweet-pearl-clutchers off, it's smart." Wow. Just....wow.

                            by Inland on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 08:10:15 AM PDT

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                          •  "But I was only trolling Inland!" says the victim (1+ / 0-)
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                            ord avg guy

                            of people who notice what he's doing on the internet.

                            I know that you like to have you and your five "friends" gang up on one lone poster in dead threads, but who gives a fuck about what you want?

                            Someone actually admitted on DK, "Yes. If it pisses you and the other Greenwald-Tweet-pearl-clutchers off, it's smart." Wow. Just....wow.

                            by Inland on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 08:07:09 AM PDT

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                          •  Because this is clearly Inland's diary. (0+ / 0-)

                            Of course.

                            "Here in America, the difference between Democrats and Republicans — we’re fighting inside the 40-yard lines." -- Barack Obama

                            by Cassiodorus on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 12:04:11 PM PDT

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                          •  But which bobswern diary? (1+ / 0-)
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                            ord avg guy

                            Oh, yeah, read one, read them all.  Recycling isn't just for paper garbage.

                            Someone actually admitted on DK, "Yes. If it pisses you and the other Greenwald-Tweet-pearl-clutchers off, it's smart." Wow. Just....wow.

                            by Inland on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 08:00:45 AM PDT

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                          •  LOL. I read them. And I tip and rec, too. (0+ / 0-)

                            Unlike you, who NEVER tips or recs the diaries you blow up with your dozens of worthless, derailing, 0-tipped comments.




                            Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ Garcia

                            by DeadHead on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 08:16:07 PM PDT

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                          •  Hey DeadHead... (1+ / 0-)
                            Recommended by:
                            Inland

                            Presenting an opposing view is what DKos is about. I understand that you haven't been here nearly as long as Inland and I so you don't fully understand that DKos isn't just a platform for you friends to post whatever the fuck they want without any challenge or critical thinking.

                            Just because you rec something doesn't mean a real liberal is going to agree with it.

                            Glad I could help you understand how the site works. Let me know if you have any questions. I hate to see you continue to embarrass yourself.

                            If Liberals hated America, we'd vote Republican.

                            by ord avg guy on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 08:40:44 PM PDT

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                          •  OMG, which remark of yours is more idiotic? (1+ / 0-)
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                            ord avg guy

                            The thought that I'm supposed to tip and rec diaries I disagree with?

                            Or the thought that it's me, and not you, who derails diaries?

                            I know you're not big on words and stuff, but disagreement isn't derailing.  Trolling is derailing.  I disagree, you troll.  

                            Someone actually admitted on DK, "Yes. If it pisses you and the other Greenwald-Tweet-pearl-clutchers off, it's smart." Wow. Just....wow.

                            by Inland on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 08:03:14 AM PDT

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                          •  Wow, this shit is fucking sad. (5+ / 0-)

                            Do people really get that involved? I mean, trolling people's reply page?

                            A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame/Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name/Mother of Exiles.

                            by SouthernLiberalinMD on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 06:53:20 PM PDT

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                          •  Only if you choose to believe (1+ / 0-)
                            Recommended by:
                            Inland

                            DeadHead's accusations.

                            As the subject of many of DeadHead's bullshit accusations and smears I know not to believe any of it. But I know he has some buddies here that really don't care about truth.

                            If Liberals hated America, we'd vote Republican.

                            by ord avg guy on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 07:58:34 PM PDT

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                          •  Ord, I caught you doing it several months ago. (0+ / 0-)

                            I documented it in a comment. I'll post the link again if you want.

                            And you arrived in this thread to post underneath my comment, long after this diary was dead.

                            Coincidence? I think not.

                            You've all but admitted to me that you've gone into diaries to rec others I was bickering with in those diaries, and I saw the recs with my own two eyes.

                            Deny it all you want. We both know the truth.




                            Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ Garcia

                            by DeadHead on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 10:52:48 PM PDT

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                          •  Who gives a fuck what you think is a coincidence? (1+ / 0-)
                            Recommended by:
                            Inland

                            You trolled me in the last diary, you trolled Inland here. And now you think you you are the victim because I replied to Inland? Hahahahaha.

                            You are the one trolling DeadHead, not me. You trolled Inland. You trolled me (repeatedly). And now that you are getting your ass handed to you you want to pretend to be the victim. That's hilarious DeadHead and so very sad and pathetic.

                            If you don't like the response to your persistent trolling then stop fucking trolling. I don't know how much more I don't know how much more I can simplify that for you.

                            If you keep trolling me I'm going to keep callintg y9u out on it. I've told you that before but it just doesn't seem to be sinking in.

                            Stop trolling, and all this goes away. It's your choice. But we know what choice you're going to make, don't we?

                            If Liberals hated America, we'd vote Republican.

                            by ord avg guy on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 04:33:02 AM PDT

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                    •  Are you still mad about last night, ord? (0+ / 0-)

                      I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings.




                      Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ Garcia

                      by DeadHead on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 03:58:11 PM PDT

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                      •  How could I still be mad? (0+ / 0-)

                        I was never mad, Deadhead. You sure love pretending I'm expressing emotion that I'm clearly not expressing. All part of that DeadHead smear attack that we've all seen so any times.

                        We do what we always do. Your obsession with me overtakes you and you attack and troll me. I respond by calling you out on your made up bullshit. You flail about with more untrue accusations, personal attacks, lies, smears, usual DeadHead bullshit. I call out you out again. SSDD, DeadHead. Nothing to be mad about. Bored is more like it. You do the same stupid attacks over and over over and over. BORING!

                        Nothing to be mad about. I know you wish your opinion meant something to me but it really doesn't. As I've told you repeatedly (but you don't want to be a grown up and face) you pissed away all your credibility long ago. Your opinion is less than meaningless. Nothing you post here is to ever be accepted at face value or assumed to be true. Nothing. That's the bed you made for yourself. Sorry :(

                        Now you're just reduced to your sad, pathetic trolling.

                        BTW - Jerry still wants you to stop shaming him with your username.

                        If Liberals hated America, we'd vote Republican.

                        by ord avg guy on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 04:14:55 PM PDT

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                        •  You ARE mad… (1+ / 0-)
                          Recommended by:
                          Cassiodorus

                          Because you keep posting the same bullshit comment to me over and over, almost word for word.

                          And you've started in with your "mysterious appearances" under my comments to help with the pooh-flinging again now, apparently.

                          Because you're VINDICTIVE.  

                          Which is why you and Inland get along so well.

                          You're two of a kind.




                          Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ Garcia

                          by DeadHead on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 07:53:06 PM PDT

                          [ Parent ]

                          •  Wrong again, DeadHead! (0+ / 0-)

                            Hey DeadHead...remember when you posted last night that we were parting company and you'll see me in October and I told you that was bullshit that you'll keep right on trolling me because that is what you do.

                            And here we are. The very next day. What you posted was bullshit (this isn't October, DeadHead). What I posted was 100% accurate (you couldn't fucking wait to come at me again).. Well DeadHead, that's exactly how all our exchanges go. What you post is bullshit. What i post is true. What you post is self-serving bullshit. I post truth. You troll. I respond to your trolling. If you troll me tomorrow, I will respond then too. Do you understand that? You are initiating these exchanges, not me. You can't stop trolling me. I could give a shit less about you. You start this and then you get frustrated because I don't back down. You want to bully me but you can't. You are a failure.

                            So with that in mind..Again, I'm not mad. I'm entertained. You tried to troll me and you fucking failed - lunachickie is still a hypocrite. You tried to troll Inland and you failed. And now you want to play the fucking victim? HAHAHA

                            You are ridiculous. How could I be mad about the ridiculous shit you are posting. You are hilarious, DeadHead. You're not maddening. You're entertainment.

                            Jerry says you're making him laugh at you too.

                            If Liberals hated America, we'd vote Republican.

                            by ord avg guy on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 08:59:54 PM PDT

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                          •  Dude. YOU came into this diary AFTER me. (0+ / 0-)

                            Your first and second fucking comments in this diary were to Inland about me, underneath one of my comments.

                            Got that?

                            One more time, just in case:

                            You went looking for me, not the other way around.




                            Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ Garcia

                            by DeadHead on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 11:04:28 PM PDT

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                          •  Wrong again, DeadHead. (0+ / 0-)

                            I can post in any diary I want. The fact that you were trolling Inland (just like you came trolling me in the last exchange we had, and the one before that, and the one before that, etc) before I got here doesn't mean anything. The fact that you think it's relevant is just more evidence of your dissembling. Nothing is quite so entertaining as you flailing about trying to cover your BAD and your trolling

                            You claimed I'm mad, but that wasn't true. You claim I went "looking for you" but that wasn't true. You claimed you were done with me until October but that wasn't true. Is even possible for you to post something that is true?

                            Jerry wants to know why you keep posting things that aren't true.

                            If Liberals hated America, we'd vote Republican.

                            by ord avg guy on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 04:22:15 AM PDT

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                      •  Heh. Someone's butthurt. (1+ / 0-)
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                        ord avg guy

                        Without reading, because who needs more of you, I'm pretty sure it's the guy responding to every one of OVG posts trying to bring in the fight from the previous blog.

                        Hoping you'll do better this time, or are you just compelled to do what you complained about me doing in DeadHead's Iron Rule of Hypocrisy?

                        Someone actually admitted on DK, "Yes. If it pisses you and the other Greenwald-Tweet-pearl-clutchers off, it's smart." Wow. Just....wow.

                        by Inland on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 04:16:08 PM PDT

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                        •  Sorry, pal. (0+ / 0-)

                          He came in here after me, for no other reason than to talk shit about me to you.

                          So no, I'm not the one who's butthurt, nor am I dragging shit from another diary, because I wouldn't have said anything about it had he not arrived here to fling shit.




                          Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ Garcia

                          by DeadHead on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 11:12:39 PM PDT

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                          •  Wrong again, DeadHead. (0+ / 0-)

                            Inland posted a funny comment and I replied "ROFL". You've tried this bullshit claim before and was just as much bullshit then as it is here and now.

                            If I want to engage you I proven I'm not afraid to engage you. Your bullshit claim that ROFL was about you when it was clearly about Inland's comment is pathetic and narcissistic. I don't give a shit about you, DeadHead. You are nothing but a gnat buzzing around desperately trying to get attention.

                            You just look for excuses to come after me. You trolled me to come after me in the last exchange and the one before that. And you made up a bullshit excuse to come after me here. Good gawd, your desperation is obvious.

                            How pathetic can you get. Don't blame me for your choices. They're your choices. Own your fucking choices. Own your fucking actions, Own your fucking words. Grow the fuck up.

                            If Liberals hated America, we'd vote Republican.

                            by ord avg guy on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 04:58:30 AM PDT

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                  •  Now, now. "creep" is not necessary. Use (3+ / 0-)
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                    your big words to express yourself.

                    "If you're in a coalition and you're comfortable, you know it's not a broad enough coalition /= GTFO" Dr. Bernice Johnson Reagon + JVolvo

                    by JVolvo on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 06:13:03 PM PDT

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                    •  What fucking difference does it make what words (0+ / 0-)

                      he uses when he's engaging dishonest and sad little trolls?

                      If Liberals hated America, we'd vote Republican.

                      by ord avg guy on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 09:56:18 PM PDT

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                      •  Wow. You're really upset by Prof West, huh? (4+ / 0-)

                        If the dissenters and critics could just be silenced, all would be fine.

                        Man, we used to mock the shit out of Bush's dead-enders here.  We might need a new dkos group here: Lockstep Loyalty.

                        "If you're in a coalition and you're comfortable, you know it's not a broad enough coalition /= GTFO" Dr. Bernice Johnson Reagon + JVolvo

                        by JVolvo on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 06:55:36 AM PDT

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                        •  Typical JVolvo... (1+ / 0-)
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                          Creating straw man so he can bravely knock them down. Great work, J. You're a credit to your tribe. Any more shit you want to pretend I said? Maybe you want to throw in some more insulting ad-homs? Troll away! ROFL....so typical.

                          Oh...and the bullshit about trying to silence critics is a nice touch. Too bad it has no basis in fact. But fuck facts, right JVolvo? You have a victim pose to strike and you will let no facts screw that up.

                          My comment has zero, nothing, nada to do with West and you know it.

                          Man, we used to mock the shit out of Bush's dead-enders here.  We might need a new dkos group here: Dishonest trolls who claim to be real liberals.

                          If Liberals hated America, we'd vote Republican.

                          by ord avg guy on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 07:16:14 AM PDT

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                        •  ROTFLMAO! (1+ / 0-)
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                          A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame/Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name/Mother of Exiles.

                          by SouthernLiberalinMD on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 08:03:52 AM PDT

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            •  It's pretty horrendous (1+ / 0-)
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              that out of that list, that's the only one Inland's interested in. Kinda sums up the nature of the gap between the sides.

              A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame/Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name/Mother of Exiles.

              by SouthernLiberalinMD on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 07:14:13 PM PDT

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      •  By a black progressive... (12+ / 0-)
        We ended up with a Wall Street presidency, a drone presidency, a national security presidency.
        That is what it looks like to me too.

        It's cool though, I expected the bait and switch.

        The 2024 comment is kind of scary, another one that I see pretty plainly, but had not really thought of 8 years after her election which is a possibility.

        I wonder if it will be anything to put down our woman president from the white male progressives.

        Can't you believe the idea that I don't believe Obama is a progressive politician?

        Give me some thought process other than race, please.

        Democracy - 1 person 1 vote. Free Markets - More dollars more power.

        by k9disc on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 08:01:27 AM PDT

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        •  really? (8+ / 0-)

          At what point did Barack Obama ever campaign as a liberal progressive?  

          Why do I remember the presidential campaign so differently?

          The first time I ever saw Obama was when he gave the keynote at the Democratic convention in 2004.   He gave a passionate appeal to moderation and compromise.  

          And that was pretty much what his political career has always been about.  If others saw in him a progressive warrior, they were looking at him through liberal-colored lenses.  

          I am tired of the dishonesty here.  If people want to criticize Obama for not being liberal enough, fine.  But don't lie about how he presented himself.  

          As for Cornel West and Tavis Smiley, they have had a bug up their ass about Obama since the 2008 campaign, when there were not afforded the deference that they demanded as self-styled leaders of Black America, and have been acting like petty little men since.  

          •  I've explained it like this: (2+ / 0-)
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            I figure it's this: (1+ / 0-)
            you could say
              a)"I campaigned for Obama but the world is disillusioned that he lied to us";
              or
              b) "I campaigned for Obama but the world is disillusioned because he's not doing all the awesome things I would do if I were president".

            If you use A), it's like Obama testifying against Obama, but if you use B), it's like West testifying against Obama.

            Because West has very little cred and Obama has lots, you choose a).

            Someone actually admitted on DK, "Yes. If it pisses you and the other Greenwald-Tweet-pearl-clutchers off, it's smart." Wow. Just....wow.

            by Inland on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 08:32:47 AM PDT

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          •  Yea, he campaigned on keeping Guantanamo open (17+ / 0-)

            on Drone Warfare in many countries in lieu of boots on the ground.

            He stood strongly for NAFTA, promising to expand it with the TPP and the like.

            He was a strong supporter of Tar Sands and offshore Atlantic Drilling.

            I clearly remember him saying that banks and financial institutions would be above the law too.

            Remember in his campaign was when he stood strongly against the Public Option to promote a private health insurance system.

            My favorite part of the campaign, the promise to appoint the people who crashed the economy to his econ cabinet.

            I was not duped, BTW, I do think he ran as a progressive, but I didn't believe his words. There was a lot of Establishment framing and language that I could not get past. It was pretty clear to me that he was the suit that we got in office today.

            One more 'by the way'... I wept when he took office. What an amazing scene and truly emotive historical event his inauguration was. I was overwhelmed with emotion. I was truly proud to be American at that moment.

            And then we got his econ team and it was a short lived honeymoon.

            Democracy - 1 person 1 vote. Free Markets - More dollars more power.

            by k9disc on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 09:38:45 AM PDT

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            •  Pretty much my take. You left out the promises (11+ / 0-)

              to never push for immigration reform (oh, wait, he did, "in the first year of my presidency") and gay rights (oh, wait, he did!) and union workers (oh, wait, he did, "put on my walking shoes and join you.")

              In other words, he campaigned as a progressive in targeted ways, they quickly left all that behind as he assembled his neo-liberal, Rubinite economic team, appointing Republicans and generally ignoring Main Street throughout.

              "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

              by YucatanMan on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 10:49:32 AM PDT

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            •  Gosh darn him for not anticipating your hype. (1+ / 0-)
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              Obama should have made a speech saying, "Now I know that some people have a special list of persons they blame for crashing the economy, and I want them to know that I have that list in front of me and I've decided to appoint some".

              He should have said "I'll end the wars but because there are some people who are focused on specific means, I wish to state the following will still be used from time to time; drones, artillery, small arms, helicopters, Navy SEALS........."

              And on and on.

              Because if he didn't expressly address each and every thing you make up, it's on him.  

              Someone actually admitted on DK, "Yes. If it pisses you and the other Greenwald-Tweet-pearl-clutchers off, it's smart." Wow. Just....wow.

              by Inland on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 12:49:03 PM PDT

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      •  Where was the outrage after Foley was beheaded (1+ / 0-)
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        and Obama played golf?  Faux outrage, you got it.

        Dallasdoc: "Snowden is the natural successor to Osama bin Laden as the most consequential person in the world, as his actions have the potential to undo those taken in response to Osama."

        by gooderservice on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 12:49:29 PM PDT

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      •  That's interesting. (4+ / 0-)
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        Given that I walked my fucking ass off for him, donated money and talked to about a billion strangers on the phone. "White progressives" were just peachy then. In fact, they were some of his earliest supporters. Probably started with him being named one of the first Dean dozen.

        Apparently the work that got him elected isn't enough to buy the right to speak honestly about his policies without accusations of treachery or bias being thrown around.

        A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame/Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name/Mother of Exiles.

        by SouthernLiberalinMD on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 06:47:32 PM PDT

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    •  heh. "fans." and he said "cheerleaders." (12+ / 0-)

      and if he's doesn't know ANYONE who thinks the president is "progressive enough" I call outright bullshit.  we know some of the same people, including my own dad.

      he's not for the rhetorical back and forth but can't stop calling the president (and now his supporters!) names lol.

      and he's lying about Holder's record vis a vis civil rights.  point blank.

      defend all that... merely 'cause he's saying what you want to hear.  that's awesome.

      This comment is dedicated to my mellow Adept2U and his Uncle Marcus

      by mallyroyal on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 08:09:41 AM PDT

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    •  Consider my screams to have reached the top (3+ / 0-)
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      of my lungs, even though there are several Obama policies of which I am not a "fan".

      There's critique (Warren, Sanders. Grayson) and there's over-the-top counter-productive critique (West, Nader, Greenwald.  .  .  oh, and Tavis Smiley).

      You don't do the latter when you have vicious nihilists on the other side constantly releasing invective and trying to bring down the President.

      When is Cornel West going to do a "golf" column?

      Steve Gilliard Lives.

      by Bethesda 1971 on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 08:22:19 AM PDT

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    •  So while West calls Obama a liar and a fraud, (3+ / 0-)

      by pretending that Obama implied he would prosecute Bush and Cheney, support Hamas over Israel, and everything else on West's wish list,

      God forbid anyone bring up that West does, in fact, have a bug so far up his ass it's affecting his brain.

      Going so far as to call him a "Republican in blackface".

      http://thegrio.com/...

      Someone actually admitted on DK, "Yes. If it pisses you and the other Greenwald-Tweet-pearl-clutchers off, it's smart." Wow. Just....wow.

      by Inland on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 08:41:17 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  ...And there it goes. (2+ / 0-)
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      JayRaye, cybrestrike

      A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame/Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name/Mother of Exiles.

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 06:56:23 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

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