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  •  By a black progressive... (12+ / 0-)
    We ended up with a Wall Street presidency, a drone presidency, a national security presidency.
    That is what it looks like to me too.

    It's cool though, I expected the bait and switch.

    The 2024 comment is kind of scary, another one that I see pretty plainly, but had not really thought of 8 years after her election which is a possibility.

    I wonder if it will be anything to put down our woman president from the white male progressives.

    Can't you believe the idea that I don't believe Obama is a progressive politician?

    Give me some thought process other than race, please.

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    by k9disc on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 08:01:27 AM PDT

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    •  really? (8+ / 0-)

      At what point did Barack Obama ever campaign as a liberal progressive?  

      Why do I remember the presidential campaign so differently?

      The first time I ever saw Obama was when he gave the keynote at the Democratic convention in 2004.   He gave a passionate appeal to moderation and compromise.  

      And that was pretty much what his political career has always been about.  If others saw in him a progressive warrior, they were looking at him through liberal-colored lenses.  

      I am tired of the dishonesty here.  If people want to criticize Obama for not being liberal enough, fine.  But don't lie about how he presented himself.  

      As for Cornel West and Tavis Smiley, they have had a bug up their ass about Obama since the 2008 campaign, when there were not afforded the deference that they demanded as self-styled leaders of Black America, and have been acting like petty little men since.  

      •  I've explained it like this: (2+ / 0-)
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        I figure it's this: (1+ / 0-)
        you could say
          a)"I campaigned for Obama but the world is disillusioned that he lied to us";
          or
          b) "I campaigned for Obama but the world is disillusioned because he's not doing all the awesome things I would do if I were president".

        If you use A), it's like Obama testifying against Obama, but if you use B), it's like West testifying against Obama.

        Because West has very little cred and Obama has lots, you choose a).

        Someone actually admitted on DK, "Yes. If it pisses you and the other Greenwald-Tweet-pearl-clutchers off, it's smart." Wow. Just....wow.

        by Inland on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 08:32:47 AM PDT

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      •  Yea, he campaigned on keeping Guantanamo open (17+ / 0-)

        on Drone Warfare in many countries in lieu of boots on the ground.

        He stood strongly for NAFTA, promising to expand it with the TPP and the like.

        He was a strong supporter of Tar Sands and offshore Atlantic Drilling.

        I clearly remember him saying that banks and financial institutions would be above the law too.

        Remember in his campaign was when he stood strongly against the Public Option to promote a private health insurance system.

        My favorite part of the campaign, the promise to appoint the people who crashed the economy to his econ cabinet.

        I was not duped, BTW, I do think he ran as a progressive, but I didn't believe his words. There was a lot of Establishment framing and language that I could not get past. It was pretty clear to me that he was the suit that we got in office today.

        One more 'by the way'... I wept when he took office. What an amazing scene and truly emotive historical event his inauguration was. I was overwhelmed with emotion. I was truly proud to be American at that moment.

        And then we got his econ team and it was a short lived honeymoon.

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        by k9disc on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 09:38:45 AM PDT

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        •  Pretty much my take. You left out the promises (11+ / 0-)

          to never push for immigration reform (oh, wait, he did, "in the first year of my presidency") and gay rights (oh, wait, he did!) and union workers (oh, wait, he did, "put on my walking shoes and join you.")

          In other words, he campaigned as a progressive in targeted ways, they quickly left all that behind as he assembled his neo-liberal, Rubinite economic team, appointing Republicans and generally ignoring Main Street throughout.

          "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

          by YucatanMan on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 10:49:32 AM PDT

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        •  Gosh darn him for not anticipating your hype. (1+ / 0-)
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          Obama should have made a speech saying, "Now I know that some people have a special list of persons they blame for crashing the economy, and I want them to know that I have that list in front of me and I've decided to appoint some".

          He should have said "I'll end the wars but because there are some people who are focused on specific means, I wish to state the following will still be used from time to time; drones, artillery, small arms, helicopters, Navy SEALS........."

          And on and on.

          Because if he didn't expressly address each and every thing you make up, it's on him.  

          Someone actually admitted on DK, "Yes. If it pisses you and the other Greenwald-Tweet-pearl-clutchers off, it's smart." Wow. Just....wow.

          by Inland on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 12:49:03 PM PDT

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