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  •  The fact that cease-fire pleases no one (6+ / 0-)

    is probably evidence that it's a reasonable deal.

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    by mosesfreeman on Wed Aug 27, 2014 at 08:28:59 AM PDT

    •  I bet you it pleases people... (5+ / 0-)

      ....who are tired of being shelled.

      Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is most important that you do it.

      by The Termite on Wed Aug 27, 2014 at 09:08:06 AM PDT

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    •  Generally, (1+ / 0-)
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      That's the definition of a good negotiations outcome: everyone walks away unhappy.

      Very rarely does a deal result in everyone being happy. That happens in movies; even then, everyone in the theater rolls their eyes because it's so unrealistic.

      © grover


      So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

      by grover on Wed Aug 27, 2014 at 09:41:14 AM PDT

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      •  That's also the definition of bad negotiations (1+ / 0-)
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        outcome, of course.

        It's actually possible to simultaneously screw both parties to a deal.

        "Former" Republicans never are. People prone to supporting profound injustice don't morph into people capable of telling right from wrong.

        by JesseCW on Wed Aug 27, 2014 at 04:46:30 PM PDT

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        •  You're right, of course. (0+ / 0-)

          My question is, if the deal is THAT bad, how bad is the situation that brings them both to the table?

          It's probably really terrible.

          People (organizations, nations, etc) often find themselves into situations that are truly horrible, and the only option is a crappy resolution. The denouement is lousy, but is NOT working the situation out any better?

          Hard to answer for all situations, but usually not.

          Dunno....

          © grover


          So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

          by grover on Wed Aug 27, 2014 at 08:52:30 PM PDT

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