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  •  war and suffering isn't what built the peace (2+ / 0-)
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    if that had been the case, europe would have found peace centuries earlier.

    no, building the peace was what built the peace. it was a conscious project, not some natural consequence of the wars. that, and an american fear of communist revolution in europe, and a rare moment in american sanity WRT foreign policy and economic policy at war's end.

    •  You're right, but the last war did create the (3+ / 0-)
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      wu ming, BYw, capelza

      chance to break the traditional power systems in the formerly Axis nations and imposed some small portion of sanity within the community of nations. WWII broke Europe so badly that change became possible.

      "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire

      by Greyhound on Wed Aug 27, 2014 at 01:12:08 PM PDT

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      •  first you need an opportunity (1+ / 0-)
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        then you need the right people to be in a position to take advantage of it, then they have to make it stick and build institutions that prevent a return of the old system.

        revolutions are very difficult, and rare for this reason. europe really got lucky in the 40s to have everything come together.

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