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  •  Amen! Children will be as irresponsible, or as (9+ / 0-)

    responsible, as the adults who raise them.

    I seriously question whether "responsible gun owner" is not an oxymoron in the 21st century.

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    by Rikon Snow on Mon Sep 01, 2014 at 02:10:58 PM PDT

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    •  I feel so sorry for that nine year old girl (15+ / 0-)

      and total, unameliorated contempt for her parents.

      A drowning man can not learn to swim. -- Chris Lonsdale

      by Rikon Snow on Mon Sep 01, 2014 at 02:15:57 PM PDT

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    •  I would change it to (5+ / 0-)

      children will be irresponsible at times, period. They will also be incompetent at some things at times. That's just a given in life. It's why we humans have childhood. We get a chance to do dumb things or try activities beyond our current abilities so we can learn about the world and how to do things more successfully the next time. Sure, some kids are mostly pretty responsible and capable most of the time but nobody should expect that to always be true.

      And nobody should put an Uzi in the hands of a 9 year old. Or let a 10 year old drive a car. Or hand over a stick of dynamite to a 12 year old. We don't expect them to be capable and responsible at those ages.

      Their parents are old enough to not just be responsible but to be held accountable for their actions with their children.

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      by Krotor on Mon Sep 01, 2014 at 02:44:46 PM PDT

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      •  The parents of the child (6+ / 0-)

        should have to face some kind of criminal charges, either negligent homicide, involuntary manslaughter, reckless endangerment of a minor -- I'm not researching before I throw some things out, so please don't spend a lot of time educating me on criminal law statutes. But I'm quite sure if you allowed your nine year old to drive your car and that same child ran over someone and killed them, whoever allowed them to drive the car would be facing some legal consequences. But with the NRA behind the follow-up, who knows? Oh, yeah, I'm sure this is what the Second Amendment was written for.

        •  I heard... (2+ / 0-)
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          ...that the 9 year old girl had "shooting with an Uzi" on her bucket list.

          Here's what the owner of the shooting range said when he was interviewed by Chris Hayes on his MSNBC show:

          Scarmado, who said all his instructors are former military or law enforcement, explained that he currently allows children 8 years old and up on the range, adding that the girl involved in Monday's fatal shooting would have likely been allowed to shoot at any other range in the region.

          "This was a very mature young lady, and something she wanted to do and her parents her treating her," he said of the 9-year-old. "This was something that was high on her bucket list to do, and her parents took her out to do what she was going to do."

          You have to wonder what the motivation was for this 9 year old's wish to shoot a machine gun.  Mowing down her 4th grade classmates?  I guess she'll have to put her plans on hold for a while...
          •  Why on earth (2+ / 0-)
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            does a 9 year old have a bucket list unless he or she has a terminal illness (presumably the Uzi girl is not dying since no reports have stated that)?  A 9 year old girl tells her parents "I want to shoot an Uzi before I die, sometime in the next 75 years or so" and her parents rush out to make her wish come true right now. The whole thing makes no sense to me at all.

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            by Krotor on Mon Sep 01, 2014 at 07:34:19 PM PDT

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          •  So I guess the top (0+ / 0-)

            entry on the instructor's bucket list was:

            Get shot in the head by a 9 year old that I handed an Uzi.

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