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  •  Didn't Cooper say that he got the name Plame (none)
    from looking up Joe Wilson's Who's Who entry?
    •  He said he didn't remember (none)
      Whether he got it from Novak or from google.

      It was definitely possible to get Plame from Wilson. But it needs to be explained why Novak would use the name, Plame, when it would expose Plame's cover company Brewster Jennings in the process.

      This is the way democracy ends Not with a bomb But with a gavel -Max Baucus

      by emptywheel on Thu Jul 21, 2005 at 11:55:08 AM PDT

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    •  Where did that come from? (none)
      As far as I know, Cooper never knew the name Plame until Novak's story ran, only that Wilsons wife was CIA.

      cheers,

      Mitch Gore

      Nobody will change America for you, you have to work to make it happen

      by Lestatdelc on Thu Jul 21, 2005 at 01:02:09 PM PDT

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      •  Good question - Miller? (none)
        As someone has conjectured Judy may have come across Valerie in her two roles - i.e., V.Wilson, (on the DC social circuit) and V.Plame (on the WMD spying circuit).

        But if Plame's cover was really effective, it's doubtful that Miller could have tumbled to it without some help - so -

        some source in the know in gov - Bolton? or Cheney?

        The name is not the thing named, the map is not the territory. -- Gregory Bateson

        by semiot on Thu Jul 21, 2005 at 01:19:15 PM PDT

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        •  But it would NOT have prompted Miller (none)
          or Novak to go with the maiden name unless they were prompted/fed that.

          It simply makes no sense for them to have driven to the maiden name without intent on someone's part who either screwed up and let it out, or was specifically trying to retaliate against here being able to work at he CPD in her capacity she had, or the effectiveness of the CPD itself.

          That is still the real mystery in all this. That is the lynchpin to the whole shooting match.

          cheers,

          Mitch Gore

          Nobody will change America for you, you have to work to make it happen

          by Lestatdelc on Thu Jul 21, 2005 at 03:18:56 PM PDT

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          •  I love you Mitch (none)
            in the Platonic sense - I mean in the sense of admiring a fellow kossian who's always on the ball.

            The name is not the thing named, the map is not the territory. -- Gregory Bateson

            by semiot on Thu Jul 21, 2005 at 04:26:50 PM PDT

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