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  •  He's part of Dem machine politics (7+ / 0-)

    He's from a Dem political machine in a very blue area. Past experience has shown politicians from these backgrounds are much more likely to build strong alliances with Republicans and corporate donors. See Chicago, New York, etc.

    When you spend your political career in an environment where your biggest competitors are fellow Dems, you develop an aversion to fighting Republicans. You're less likely to understand the need for a comprehensive, quality public policy agenda.

    And spending most of your career as a member of a dominant political party means you've become very comfortable with wealthy corporate donors.  IIRC this pol has been criticized for this in the past.

    Any Dem pol wanting to run for the WH these days can quickly cobble together a populist-sounding smoke screen agenda. Its become SOP.

    Money is property, not speech. Overturn Citizens United.

    by Betty Pinson on Wed Sep 03, 2014 at 07:48:23 AM PDT

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    •  Doesn't sound at all like what I've read about him (11+ / 0-)

      Do you have any examples of these things you say? I mean other than your suppositions of what he's probably like. Something concrete, other than vague generalizations and "See Chicago, New York, etc."?

      ...wispy longings for a time before Elvis and the Beatles, back when "a girl could cook and still would". You know before the troubles.~Hunter.

      by denig on Wed Sep 03, 2014 at 08:54:27 AM PDT

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      •  It isn't (9+ / 0-)

        As a Marylander, I've been sitting ringside for these fights. He has zero problems going after Republicans. And when he does fight with Democrats, they're almost always the ones to his right.

        He's an actual progressive with a great record. You have to stretch pretty hard to find a reason to oppose him on that front. Stereotyping Blue State Dems doesn't really seem to be helpful and, in this case, it doesn't seem to be accurate, either.

        "Speaking for myself only" - Armando

        by JR on Wed Sep 03, 2014 at 11:50:24 AM PDT

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        •  Thanks for the info! What I have read about him, (3+ / 0-)
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          sounds impressive!

          ...wispy longings for a time before Elvis and the Beatles, back when "a girl could cook and still would". You know before the troubles.~Hunter.

          by denig on Wed Sep 03, 2014 at 12:06:17 PM PDT

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        •  How courageous is it to take on the GOP (1+ / 0-)
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          in a state where you know you will prevail?

          New Republic: So are the left-wing blogs as bad as the Tea Party ones in this case? -------------------------Chuck Schumer: Left-wing blogs are the mirror image. They just have less credibility and less clout.

          by AlexDrew on Wed Sep 03, 2014 at 12:39:54 PM PDT

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          •  Then it would be nice to see it more often! (3+ / 0-)
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            Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

            by Wee Mama on Wed Sep 03, 2014 at 02:22:56 PM PDT

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          •  When you hold national ambitions? (0+ / 0-)

            He seems to be getting it from both sides here!

            First, we have someone saying that he can't be trusted to fight Republicans or conservatives because he's from a very blue state. Then we have someone saying that it doesn't matter if he fights Republicans and conservatives, because he's from a very blue state.

            At a certain point it all just descends into farce.

            But one thing you have to consider is that Martin O'Malley has been planning to run for higher office for a long time. He launched his federal PAC back in summer 2012, while he was leading the DGA. So bear that in mind when you consider that, since 2012, he's helped pass numerous laws that might have hurt his national ambitions, such as:

            -repealing the death penalty
            -decriminalizing marijuana
            -one of the toughest statewide gun control bills in America
            -gay marriage
            -a higher gas tax
            -a statewide DREAM Act

            That's not the record of someone who lacks courage. We have plenty of blue state governors who don't come close to his record, and I doubt any presidential candidate (save for Bernie Sanders) will find any room to O'Malley's left.

            "Speaking for myself only" - Armando

            by JR on Fri Sep 05, 2014 at 02:42:09 PM PDT

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    •  That's why you'd never have voted for Ted K? (14+ / 0-)

      Residency aside?

      In a bustling, vital, metropolitan state, with expensive media, like MD, it's not a sin to avail yourself of a strong party organization. Or "machine" if you will.

      As to O'Malleys cred for fighting GOP opposition, he beat the Repubes out of the Guv's mansion to gain his governorship.

      Action on gun control, education, and raising revenue? I'll take it, and see about Bernie and Elizabeth guiding him on financial regulation.

      Vague generalizations are not a cogent critique of O'Malley.
      And consider that Maryland certainly has its share of redneck shitheads, yet Maryland Dems keep the state running pretty well, and keep the smoldering of wingnut stupidity tamped down. Maybe we have something to learn from Maryland?

      I'm the plowman in the valley - with my face full of mud

      by labradog on Wed Sep 03, 2014 at 09:53:36 AM PDT

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    •  People hate machine politics until they don't. (1+ / 0-)
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      Otherwise we wouldn't have people repeatedly calling for a return to the 50-state strategy and complaining that Clinton and Obama aren't doing enough to help for the midterm.

    •  So you want someone with NO (0+ / 0-)

      organization and no party affiliation and no loyalties and no support – who will be smoked by Rand Paul or Ted Cruz? And who is too old for the rigors of a full campaign, let alone the job? No.  I like Bernie but he has the job he should have now.

      Ed FitzGerald for governor Of Ohio. Women's lives depend on it.

      by anastasia p on Wed Sep 03, 2014 at 12:35:14 PM PDT

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    •  this is your justification? (0+ / 0-)

      All those words, and you actually don't provide anything substantive to support what you're saying.

      If you prefer Sanders, then go for it !! You don't need to buttress your support for Sanders by baselessly tearing down other solid progressive candidates.

      Here, you're slamming Dems, but yet you would support Warren?

      KOS: "Mocking partisans focusing on elections? Even less reason to be on Daily Kos."

      by fcvaguy on Thu Sep 04, 2014 at 01:32:02 PM PDT

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