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  •  They Would Be Stupid If What They Seem to Be (4+ / 0-)
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    The grouch, a2nite, ThePhlebob, Gwennedd

    doing, ostenstibly, is really their main purpose.

    When any force appears to be stupid yet is clearly in control and if anything gaining power, the "stupid" hypothesis is one we need to abandon.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Thu Sep 04, 2014 at 07:39:38 AM PDT

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    •  people who don't believe in science are stupid (1+ / 0-)
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      BelgianBastard

      that's my opinion.  

    •  call me a quibbler (1+ / 0-)
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      BelgianBastard

      which is a sentence I never expected to type. but, if you are a climate denialist, and you are in control and gaining ground, as you note, then you either

       A. truly don't believe in the science and overwhelming data, and are to my mind, stupid, or

       2. you do believe, and you think that making money now is more important than trying to keep the planet livable, because you feel like, I don't know, magic beans will save you, or money will insulate you from consequences, or whatever. Which, to my mind, is pretty much stupid.

      perhaps you're correct, though, and the word isn't stupid, but rather sociopathic.

    •  Climate science denialists aren't stupid, but they (0+ / 0-)

      have a mentality that differs from the rest of us. They do not believe in objective reality.
         They think that all issues are political and break down along left-right lines. So, if a "leftist" believes that global warming is happening, it can't be because global warming really is happening. There must be some political or economic reason that "the left" believes that.
         Moreover, anybody who believes that global warming is happening must, be definition, be a leftist.
         And "leftists" are not motivated by altruism or the hope of making things better for everyone. That kind of motivation is simply not comprehensible to the RW denialists. "Leftists" want to exert control over everyone else and they particularly want to raise taxes. Scientists are all crooked and pander to "leftists" in order to keep the grant money flowing.
         Some of these people are relatively intelligent and some even have quasi-scientific backgrounds. But if sanity is the congruence of objective truth and one's understanding of the truth, then denialists are insane.

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