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  •  Not surprised (4.00)
    I recently recieved a survey/request for donations from both Hillary Clinton and the DCCC. The survey asked me to rank the top ten issues facing us in '06, out of a given list. The war in Iraq was not on that list.

    I sent the questionaire back with comments in big bold letters that the war in Iraq, the lies that got us into Iraq, our dead and injured soldiers and the thousands of dead and injured Iraqis is my #1 issue. And if they don't have the courage to bring it up they won't get a penny from me.

    I am sick of this garbage from the "experts" who run the Democratic party.

    •  Wow (none)
      If that's true they are really more hopeless than I've thought previously.

      KISS -- Keep It Simple, Stupid! :-D

      by Viktor on Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 03:13:16 PM PDT

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    •  Sometimes We Need to Use Our (none)
      Returned: STUPID

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy....--ML King, "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 03:31:33 PM PDT

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    •  Me too! (none)
      That's what I did, too, when I received that "survey" which strained credulity to the breaking point.

      Jackals, weasels, polecats, and donkeys. Boobus Americanus.

      by Thaxter on Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 03:38:13 PM PDT

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    •  We need to PDF that bad boy (4.00)
      and air it out.  2006 is unwinnable if Democrats can't improve on "I voted against it before I voted for it", either rhetorically or prescriptively.  We're going to have another 1000 dead at least before 11/06, so pretending it won't come up is recklessly stupid.

      Here's what -- we don't have enough troops in Iraq to quell the current insurgency, which means it will grow.  We don't have the recruits necessary to increase troop strength, which means we couldn't quell the insurgency if we wanted to short of turning Iraq into a crater and slaughtering its population, which we won't do in turn because we need both Iraqi oil and enough regional stability to keep neighboring oil flowing.

      The political logic for power-wielding Republicans can't be "more of the same" in '06, as the Hackett race elegantly showed (and OH-2 was all about things Iraq).  The logic has to be either to fold with honor in Iraq or double-down in Iran.

      If it's the former, the Democratic Party needs to lead NOW with the particulars.  We need to be plowing diplomatic soil and giving military brass a way to salvage their institution and fight for us all another day.

      If it's the latter, we need to hear from Democrats either why war with Iran serves or undermines our national security BEFORE BushCo starts blowing up reactors.

      In short, we need to seize the initiative going forward on a war that will not go away.  Elements of the Democratic Party who voted for war in Iraq and now ignore our predicament will cripple the Party and damage the country.

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