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  •  Well, It's a Really Bad Example (none)
    If the point is to argue that the House Dems aren't making a point of the Iraq war, citing this document as evidence, once it's understood what the document is, is silly.  As Kagro points out just above, you could make your argument apply to this document on just about any issue, not just the Iraq war.  

    The revolution will not be televised, but we'll analyze it to death at The Next Hurrah.

    by Dana Houle on Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 03:49:00 PM PDT

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    •  But please lets not lose the forest for the trees (none)

      -- DH - you are correct about the bad example, but we donot have a strong position against the war.  Not only is the war wrong on its own merits - but its a huge distraction for this administration and should be addressed aggressively and directly.  Are the Dems doing that? (even Dean) - well - NO. Why is THAT?
      I DON'T KNOW - DO YOU???

      Stop Looking For Leaders - WE are the Leaders!!!

      by SwimmertoFreedom04 on Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 04:24:57 PM PDT

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      •  Blaming That on the DCCC is Wrong (none)
        Until there's agreement among the policy makers--in other words, the actual Democratic members of Congress elected by a plurality or majority of voters in 202 Congressional districts across America--the DCCC can't run around advocating a position that's highly contested within the caucus.  It's unrealistic to expect them to.  

        The "blame" for the confusion and lack of coherent message on the war in Iraq doesn't lie with the DCCC or the DSCC, it lies with the Senators and the Members of Congress.

        The revolution will not be televised, but we'll analyze it to death at The Next Hurrah.

        by Dana Houle on Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 04:31:57 PM PDT

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        •  I'm not blaming the DCCC per se (none)

          -- but what are the Democrats who support the war thinking about and why are they thinking that way given the evidence and resulting support for this administration? I don't expect you to have the answers - but I want to grab these Dems by the lapel and ask them why, why, why?  Its the most nonsensical and destructive stand that is impacting our party's ability to advocate for change.  Oh please, don't let it be some triangulation answer....

          I want some answers from someone on the justification for this for a Democrat.....

          Stop Looking For Leaders - WE are the Leaders!!!

          by SwimmertoFreedom04 on Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 06:54:06 PM PDT

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          •  I'm With You on the War Issue (none)
            I just wanted to make it clear that the DCCC isn't the place where one should pin any blame for those Dems who support the war.  They can't take sides on policy disputes, because their "bosses"--the 202 Democratic members of congress--are all over the map on these issues.  In order to elect Dems and be true to the beliefs and positions of the members and the challengers, next fall they're going to be helping candidates who say the war was a disaster from the start and that's why they've always opposed it, and probably a few here and there who say they've always supported it and always will support it.  

            The revolution will not be televised, but we'll analyze it to death at The Next Hurrah.

            by Dana Houle on Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 07:01:33 PM PDT

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