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  •  Only Congress May Declare War (none)
    Shame on them -- all of them that voted to cede war powers to AWOL Bush.
    •  A President cannot deal with (none)
      a hypothetical situation such as was presented hypothetically by Iraq without the threat of the military.

      If Iran gets WMD and threatens certain nations with them, do you want the next president handicapped (whether he's a Democrat or a Republican) by congress handcuffing him from using force?

      Look at these people! They suck each other! They eat each other's saliva and dirt! -- Tsonga people of southern Africa on Europeans kissing.

      by upstate NY on Sat Aug 06, 2005 at 09:58:49 PM PDT

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      •  given our track record (none)
        i'd rather let the europeans work it out. seriously.

        crimson gates reek with meat and wine/while on the streets, bones of the frozen dead -du fu (712-770)

        by wu ming on Sun Aug 07, 2005 at 01:26:44 AM PDT

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      •  Maybe the founding fathers got it right? (none)
        "If Iran gets WMD and threatens certain nations with them, do you want the next president handicapped (whether he's a Democrat or a Republican) by congress handcuffing him from using force"

        Absolutely. It might prevent that next president from using cooked up intelligence to go to war. Going to war is a one way trip to death and destruction, we don't want to make it easy. If it is clearly necessary Congress will pass emergency legislation.

        Preventive war is against international law. And people who laugh at the concept of international law are the same people who blindly got behind this war to start with.

        A lot of these clowns running DC seem to think they are smarter than Jefferson and Madison, and Acheson and Marshall for that matter.

        •  The Founding Fathers never dreamed (none)
          of a nuclear weapon.

          There is a threat out there and for a century now we haven't hampered Presidents from making war. This is reality.

          Believe me, i have been accused on this board of being a Pacifist, even though I'm not. I was agains the Gulf War, Kosovo, Iraq War. I was against the IWR too. That doesn't mean I can't see the need for certain provisions in the IWR.

          In short, I'm pretty concerned with Iran.

          Look at these people! They suck each other! They eat each other's saliva and dirt! -- Tsonga people of southern Africa on Europeans kissing.

          by upstate NY on Sun Aug 07, 2005 at 07:47:43 AM PDT

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