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  •  Bush wants to spread blame (none)
    If democrats come right out and admit they were wrong about Iraq, this plays right into Bush's hand. He can then spread the blame all around and only take a tiny share for himself. I say we don't throw this asshole one tiny shred of a life-saver.

    Hammer and hammer at the whole imcompetence and lies of this war. This will point right at the real culprit, which is Bush.

    The Bush administration is a Travesty of a Mockery of a Sham!

    by Bailey Savings and Loan on Sat Aug 06, 2005 at 02:18:57 PM PDT

    •  Are you saying Bush is going to (none)
      blame Dems for supporting him?  That seems a little far-fetched.  I hope I'm misreading what you said.
      •  that's the premise though (none)
        by not saying they're sorry, they don't differentiate themselves from repugs, and yet... by saying they're sorry they do put their lot in with the repugs by taking on their share of the blame.  the press would love to have a crack at this.

        but nothing is too far-fetched for bush, at any rate.  wouldn't be surprised if he did blame dems for supporting him.  with a friendly media he could get away with it.  and then kossacks would just blame dems for that too..  

        (OPTIMISM IS THE OPIUM OF THE PEOPLE! THE HEALTHY ATMOSPHERE STINKS! LONG LIVE TROTSKY!)

        by BiminiCat on Sat Aug 06, 2005 at 03:23:40 PM PDT

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        •  I'm usually pretty good with logic problems (none)
          but you just confused me thoroughly.  

          I "think" I disagree with you on the following:  If the Dems apologized they would not be putting their lot in with Repugs - they've already done that and this would be their first step in distancing themselves.

          For W to blame Dems for supporting him would him to admit the policy was and is wrong, and that's not going to happen.

          That last part about Kossacks blaming Dems?  That seems like a kind of a cheap shot, to tell you the truth.  Kossacks have high standards, in general, and quite possibly higher than the powers that be that control the Democratic Party right now, but I don't think we sit around thinking of ways to discredit Dems.  We're just not afraid to call them out for mistakes, unlike Repugs who hate to be critical of their own even at the expense of appearing to be full-on wingnuts.

          •  logically (none)
            it's a catch-22 at best. apologize, and that dilutes the blame placed on the bush admin.  don't apologize, kossacks say they're not accountable.

            I don't think we sit around thinking of ways to discredit Dems.

            i'm not convinced we all don't.

            (OPTIMISM IS THE OPIUM OF THE PEOPLE! THE HEALTHY ATMOSPHERE STINKS! LONG LIVE TROTSKY!)

            by BiminiCat on Sat Aug 06, 2005 at 04:08:06 PM PDT

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      •  Bush was driving (none)
        Bush was driving the car that ran our country into the ditch in Iraq. I don't think the democrats should apologize because they didn't do more to take the keys away before he hopped in the car. It is Bush's fucking fault! I'm tired of this gang-banging of democrats by democrats. Focus people! We are not the problem, the repugs are the complete and total reason for the Iraq mess.

        The Bush administration is a Travesty of a Mockery of a Sham!

        by Bailey Savings and Loan on Sat Aug 06, 2005 at 07:22:41 PM PDT

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    •  I would apologize (none)
      I would say that I am deeply sorry. I voted yes hoping the resolution would make Saddam more willing to cooperate with UN inspectors and disarm  completely as required because he'd see that we were firm in our determination.

      I thought the safety in the bill was that bush was required to declare to Congress  that diplomatic efforts failed and I believed that he would make every effort.  They had not failed. The inspectors were in there until we made them leave. The president did not honor the requirement.

      The bill required that the president also had to certify that action against Iraq would not hinder efforts to pursue the al Qaeda. He failed us there as well.

      The bill  stated  the administration to report to us on the progress of any war with Iraq every 60 days. We were to be kept fully informed. The administration failed and is still failing us there as well.

      I voted for a bill that said we would go to war as a last resort if it was needed to protect our citizens. I do not regret my willingness  to use our military when there is no other option left.

      But I do regret  that with that vote I empowered an administration already determined to go to war , one that was deceptive about the threat, did not let the UN inspectors do their work as they agreed, and not only changed history by entering a war of choice but poorly planned for the aftermath of that war.

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