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  •  Tak tochno ("Exactly") (4.00)
    Back in my zoomie days I was a Russian linguist.
    •  so THAT explains (none)
      why you're one of those union commies ....

      ;)

      •  Actually (none)
        I put a lot of the blame for the current woes of organized labor on their utterly stupid purging of communists, "suspected" communists, and many simply on the left during the 1940s and 1950s.  The shame is that labor leaders did this both under pressure from government and corporations as well as in their own interests.

        The bizarre thing is that the kind of folks that were purged were the people responsible for the success of the labor movement up until that point.  Not FDR, not Senator Wagner - the communists, socialists, and radicals who were dedicated and skilled organizers.  With them went our hopes of universal health care, the hope of greater equality for all, and a political party of and for working people.

        I'm in a rambling mood tonight, by the way.  Ha!

        "While there is a lower class, I am in it. While there is a criminal element, I am of it. While there is a soul in prison, I am not free." - Eugene Debs

        by matthewc on Fri Aug 12, 2005 at 08:55:08 PM PDT

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        •  Thanks. (4.00)
          That's a fascinating little history lesson and it makes a whole lot of sense. I had never thought of it that way before.

          Apparently, my great-grandfather was an AAU spokesman in Detroit and read the Daily Worker dutifully until his dying day. He 'retired' in the 1950s- but I hadn't realized there had been a purge of the unions. I'll have to ask my mom about it.

          Gotta love any man who saw all the promise in the land of plenty that, as a teenager, he went across Europe ON FOOT from Hungary, found passage in steerage on a ship to America, came to New York and immediately signed up with CP-USA. He was fairly high up in the New York organization too...

          This, by the way, is on the less-eccentric side of my family.

    •  Tanzelvat'lnoi Larry (none)
      Ya ne znal shto ti Russkii govoryashii.

      The Book of Revelation is NOT a foreign policy manual.

      by Dont Just Stand There on Fri Aug 12, 2005 at 08:21:19 PM PDT

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      •  Zhal'no tol'ko chut-chut teper' (none)
        Kogda ya sluzhil v voenno-vosdushnikh silakh, ya uchilsya v russkom yazyke v Institute Innostrannikh Yazykov Otdela Oborony v Monteree v Kalifornii. Otlichnaya shkola.  No ehto bylo 30 let tomu nazad, i teper' ya zabyvayu 95%.  
        •  Hyet, ti esho pekrasno govorish' (none)
          Predzhe zhil ya v Leningrade (kogda eto bil' Leningrad i kogda bil' sovetskii soyuz) and v Novosibirske kogda ya roboltal c Georgem Sorosom. Ya tozhe redko govory po-russkii v nastoeyashchoe vremya, no interesno shto kto-to zdes' ychil russkii.

          The Book of Revelation is NOT a foreign policy manual.

          by Dont Just Stand There on Fri Aug 12, 2005 at 09:48:52 PM PDT

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        •  Is it just me, or is reading transliterated (none)
          Russian the slowest, most painful thing?  Getting through Cyrillic is so much easier.

          "A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both." --President Eisenhower

          by rhubarb on Sat Aug 13, 2005 at 06:41:56 AM PDT

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