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  •  Please explain (none)
    What needed to be done?  If you are going to defend the Patriot Act, surely you can be more concrete than that.  

    Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

    by johnny rotten on Tue Feb 03, 2004 at 06:20:30 PM PST

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    •  Patriot Act (none)
      Go here.  Four video clips, an excerpt of his Senate testimony and a brief discussion.
      •  Huh? (none)
        Edwards sits on the Senate Intelligence Committee. It was his job to participate in the writing of the Patriot Act. It is not meaningful to criticize Edwards for either his vote or the fact of his participation in the act.

        Do you actually believe the stuff you write?  It certainly is meaningful to hold Edwards accountable for his votes.  

        Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

        by johnny rotten on Tue Feb 03, 2004 at 06:32:38 PM PST

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        •  Do you know what Committee means? (none)
          It means he was hired by the United States Government to be an expert in matters related to the jurisdiction of that committee.  It was his job to debate the contents of the Act.  People outside the committee primarily contribute by voting on the Act.  Committee members are much more active in the construction.  Hence we can speak about specific clauses, such as the sunset clause, which is the only thing standing between infinity and next year's termination of the most intrusive aspects of the Act.

          Can you read? Or comprehend?

      •  The quote that Johnny Mentions (none)
        About it not being "meaningful" to criticize Edwards for his vote or his participation on the committee with regards the Patriot Act?

        When I followed your link to that statement, I found that point...odd. And troubling.

        Isn't his record of work in the Senate ALL meaningful to critique? Just like Kerry's. Just like Dean's record as governor, Clark's as general?

        What does meaningful mean ?

        `Exit, pursued by a bear'  - Stage direction from Act III, Scene III of Shakespeare's `The Winter's Tale'

        by zuzu on Tue Feb 03, 2004 at 07:49:36 PM PST

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    •  Who's defending the Patriot Act? (none)
      We're just saying that EVERYBODY in the Senate (save one) voted for it.  How many of the Dem. candidates who DIDN'T serve in Congress would have voted for it under the same circumstances?  You cannot know this, therefore, it's a non-issue.  The fact that Sen. Edwards was able to insert a sunset clause into it is particularly noteworthy, and that makes him my #2.

      What did we do to deserve George W. Bush?

      by republicans are idiots on Tue Feb 03, 2004 at 06:44:45 PM PST

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      •  So if 98 Senators Jumped Off a Cliff... (none)
        Would Edwards?

        That's the old "But Mom, all the kids were voting that way!" argument that makes me wish Feingold was the liberal who was running.

        `Exit, pursued by a bear'  - Stage direction from Act III, Scene III of Shakespeare's `The Winter's Tale'

        by zuzu on Tue Feb 03, 2004 at 07:53:07 PM PST

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