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  •  Did you come across (4.00)
    the Library of Congress site?  So cool (and sorry if I missed it in your links above -- I see you did get to the National Archives cool site).

    Another good one is the Women and Social Movements website at U of Binghamton, with dozens of projects on lots of women's causes, and each with loads of links to cool documents.

    Btw, I have held in my hand some letters from Susan B. Anthony.  It gave me a shiver.  Do remember to do another great diary on another day suffragists then and women since celebrate -- her birthday, February 15.  (I always go get marked-down chocolate.:-)

    "Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon

    by Cream City on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 07:19:23 PM PDT

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    •  yep...in fact (4.00)
      >> the Library of Congress site?

      The quote from Carrie Chapman Catt's book, Woman suffrage and politics; the inner story of the suffrage movement, came from that site.

      Actually I was considering writing another diary based on the political analysis in the book.  I was thunderstruck at so many of the parallels to modern day issues...fighting an entrenched conservative machine who successfully appealed to the biases of the religious white base was just the beginning.  And she had a lot to say about that.

      But also the lack of national party support for the cause, which she also lambasts:

      During this long stretch of time, the dominant political parties, pitted against each other since 1860, used their enormous organized power to block every move on behalf of woman suffrage. The seeming exceptions were rare and invariably caused by breaks or threatened breaks in party ranks. Strong men in both parties and in all States championed the woman's cause in Legislatures and in political conventions, and eventually the number of these became too large to be ignored. But it was not until public opinion, far in advance of party leaders, indicated that a choice between woman suffrage and party disruption must be made that organized party help was given, and even then it was neither united nor whole-hearted.

      Between the adoption of the Fifteenth Amendment (March 30, 1870), which completed the enfranchisement of the Negro, and 1910, lie forty years during which women watched, prayed and worked without ceasing for the woman's hour that never came. The party whips had cracked to drive the nation to enfranchise the Negro. They cracked, and cracked again, to prevent the enfranchisement of women. Whenever there was an exception and the parties stood by woman suffrage in a referendum, success came to the woman's cause. Most victories were won, however, in spite of party opposition.

      That kind of brought Madman to mind when I was reading through it. :)

      Tons and tons of great material there.  Thanks for the links to the other sites--I'll be checking them out in the days to come and sending out some e-cards.  

      Comments referring only to ratings are a nuisance. Noise. They waste time and bandwidth. We're all dumber for having read them.

      by willowby on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 08:41:15 PM PDT

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      •  General Catt, as suffragists called her (4.00)
        (since it was wartime then, at the end of the "century of struggle," too) was a brilliant strategist, wasn't she?  I had the same reaction as yours, reading her works.

        For one thing, she had the Electoral College figured out about a century before most of us had to try to do so.  Her two-pronged "Winning Plan" to resolve the long-standing split over strategy in the movement, and to increase the pressure on Congress and the President with more than 16 million women voting BEFORE 1920 -- it was, well, brilliant.

        Btw, to others not as in the know as Willowby (such fun to talk with someone about the suffrage campaign, but this is a public forum!), that statement just made is not a mistake.  Women voted in some territories and states as early as 1869.  The Nineteenth Amendment was for FULL (not just some elections) and FEDERAL (all states) suffrage.

        Even so, two states still refused to ratify or to allow women to vote even after 1920 -- so women still had to go all the way to the Supreme Court to finally get the vote ordered in those states in 1922.  So those women didn't vote for president until 1924.  And by then and for years, the suffragists still had to fight repeal campaigns.

        And those states still refuse to ratify. . . .

        "Let all the dreamers wake the nation." -- Carly Simon

        by Cream City on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 09:10:12 PM PDT

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        •  I saw that somewhere (none)
          >> And those states still refuse to ratify. . . .

          actually had a link to a site that listed the states and their votes on ratification, which I originally included.  Then the link broke...think my constant viewing of it killed the bandwidth or something.

          What were the two states?  Did Delaware ever ratify?

          Comments referring only to ratings are a nuisance. Noise. They waste time and bandwidth. We're all dumber for having read them.

          by willowby on Thu Aug 18, 2005 at 10:24:23 PM PDT

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