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  •  Gun Control (none)
    Gun control should be a state and local issue, not a federal one. The federal government should stay out of it.

    The gun control issue is a loser for us. Many people who are pro-gun are one issue voters.

    •  Really? (none)
      People who are pro life are one issue voters too.  Do you really want to argue that means we should all join them?

      You broke it, but you can't fix it. It's time to go home now.

      by Tod on Thu Aug 25, 2005 at 01:44:13 PM PDT

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      •  false analogies (none)
        are the tool of lame thought.

        There is an unsubtle difference between breathing fire and blowing smoke.

        by Leggy Starlitz on Thu Aug 25, 2005 at 01:53:53 PM PDT

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        •  So? (none)
          A pithy quotation does not suggest any reason why the one issue pro life voters are different than the one issue pro gun voters.  So, whatever you think about the virtues of false analogies, you haven't given any reason to think that this particular analogy is false.  

          The fact that some people will vote against us if we take a particular position says nothing about whether the position is right or wrong, or whether we won't gain as many or more votes than we lose.

          You broke it, but you can't fix it. It's time to go home now.

          by Tod on Thu Aug 25, 2005 at 02:03:38 PM PDT

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          •  Guns Aren't An Issue That Touches... (none)
            ...on one's religious belief about when life begins.  

            The revolution will not be televised, but we'll analyze it to death at The Next Hurrah.

            by Dana Houle on Thu Aug 25, 2005 at 04:40:59 PM PDT

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            •  It almost seems so. (none)
              The level of fervor on the pro gun side seems like something people on either side of the abortion debate might recognize.

              The pragmatic argument that we'll lose a catagory of single issue voters would apply equally well in the abortion context.  The comments I've seen trying to distinguish the two tend to retreat back to the merits of "well, the pro life people are wrong".  You can make the pragmatic argument and accept that it applies equally well to abortion or you can make the merits argument but it is pretty hard to scramble the two together.

              You broke it, but you can't fix it. It's time to go home now.

              by Tod on Thu Aug 25, 2005 at 09:14:45 PM PDT

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