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  •  I disagree with lapin about the 87% (none)
    Here's the kick to Bush's groin and to the groin of all those wingnuts who want to call dissenters treasonous traitors.

    6. Do you think it is OK for people who oppose the war in Iraq to express their opposition publicly, or not?

    --Yes, 87 percent

    In other words, fuck you Limbaugh.

    I think that making a big deal out of the fact that Limbaugh and the wingnuts have staked out what turns out to be an extreme position is a mistake.  Far from this being a miscalculation on their part, I think it's always been a key part of their strategy to drag the discourse in their direction: if they represented the majority, I think they'd take that as a sign that they weren't being extreme enough.  

    Compare that philosophy with the Democrats' pathetic chasing after the center.  That's how the Right manage to make the 'middle-of-the-road' so far to the right of the majority of American opinion.  

    •  100% of the sample... (none)
      ...thinks that breathing oxygen is cool.

      Serious side of coin

      That snark has a serious demonstration -- that there do exist circumstances, for which radicalizing the discourse just isn't good survival, never mind politics.

      A more (unfortunately) realistic one would be advocating wholesale unilateral dropping of nuclear weapons on an enemy, unprovoked...in order to establish negotiating room for the barely-less-wholesome dropping of "just one"...which in almost all scenarios requires everyone else in the room to take the fallout quietly, and like it.

      Yet it depends on audience

      I concede the point that Rush, et al, are less interested in converting the body politic at large, and more interesting in intentifying the extant conversion experience for persons who have already started to have their hardwiring altered to conform to FoxSpeak.

      In which case, there is no dragging of the discourse rightward...just dragging victims of such rhetoric into the streets.

      And this we have seen before...back when those people that nobody is allowed to mentioned anymore starting running things in Germany.

      Nothing says 'watch out!' like an elephant gone rogue.

      by cskendrick on Fri Aug 26, 2005 at 10:29:47 AM PDT

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