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  •  Exactly. (none)
    Whether or not one thinks N.O. should be rebuilt is not the issue right now. Besides, had the proper infrastructure and environmental systems been in place...we might be having a very different conversation right now.

    George Bush is an unnatural disaster.

    by michele2 on Thu Sep 01, 2005 at 02:19:49 PM PDT

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    •  You got it. (none)
      I personally agree (with Hastert the Unspeakable -- who'da ever thunk it?) that NO should not be rebuilt, but:
      A) I am a private citizen, not the freakin' speaker of the freakin' House, and
      B) regardless, NOW IS SO TOTALLY NOT THE TIME TO BE  BRINGING UP THE POINT I SIMPLY MUST SCREAM IN CAPS!!!

      If Jesus came back and saw what's going on in His name, He'd never stop throwing up. -- Frederick, in "Hannah and her Sisters"

      by Hastur on Thu Sep 01, 2005 at 03:51:58 PM PDT

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      •  Whatever. (none)
        Breaux is a moron.

        New Orleans is in a much more precarious situation than Los Angeles (but I agree fuck Malibu). The worst that happens every 100 years here is basically jack shit and won't destroy the city. And as for the Chicago fire -- all you have to do is rebuild it differently.

        As far as New Orleans goes, it's going to face this every year as global warming increases the intensity of hurricanes, and subsidence, and also, the eventual loss of outflow of the Mississippi to the Atchafalaya basin.

        It's not a sensitive thing to say, but we don't want our leaders to be sensitive, we want them to be smart and rational. It's a bunch of red-neck anti A-Rab anger that got us into Iraq; not rational thought.

        Sorry, I hate Hastert, but he's right here.

        P.S. He didn't say stop the rescue, as the diarist is implying, he said don't rebuild. How's that Darwinian?

        Sail on, sail on, o mighty Ship of State!
        To the Shores of Need
        Past the Reefs of Greed
        Through the Squalls of Hate.

        by Attorney at Arms on Thu Sep 01, 2005 at 04:17:11 PM PDT

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        •  disagree (none)
          And you know, it's funny how folks are so sure they are the "rational" ones.  The "tough guys".

          We're rebuilding a huge symbolic skyscraper at ground zero...when the vacancy rate on Wall Street is up, and the future tenants of this colossus are unknown. (Do you want to work every day, eighty stories up, at ground zero?  Would you want your loved ones to?)

          And yet, you're talking about just abandoning the fifth largest port in the world?  You are endorsing a "cut and run" on the site of centuries of our cultural heritage?

          Let's talk about the "how" of rebuilding New Orleans.and the "where" and the "strategy" later...when the loss of life and rescue operations are long over with...but I'd just ask you to imagine if the Speaker of the House had said, in the immediate aftermath of 9/11:

          "Forget Wall Street, it's gonna be vulnerable to terrorists for a century....let's abandon it now."

          That's not leadership.

          He's a Benedict Arnold.  I stand my ground.

          I used to live like Robinson Crusoe--shipwrecked among eight million people. Then one day I saw a footprint in the sand, and there you were. -B. Wilder

          by kid oakland on Thu Sep 01, 2005 at 05:17:53 PM PDT

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        •  Rebuild but on higher ground (none)
          Somewhere along the mouth of the Mississippi will continue to comprise a huge port just because it's a natural place to transfer bulk cargo from the Mississippi basin from barge to seagoing ships.  But that doesn't need to be done in port facilities built on land that's sunk below sea level.  I think seagoing ships can go all the way upriver to Baton Rouge.  Maybe most of the rebuilding should be there, or someplace else that's less vulnerable to subsidence, hurricanes, and flooding.

          Someone compared New Orleans today to Galveston after the 1900 hurricane.  Most of the port business went inland to Houston after 1900.  What's left is mostly a resort with historical interest.  Galveston even claims to be sort of a sister city to New Orleans.  Maybe both sisters should be fascinating shadows of their former selves.

          We're all pretty crazy some way or other; some of us just hide it better.

          by david78209 on Thu Sep 01, 2005 at 06:12:02 PM PDT

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