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  •  Not a bad point (none)
    Isn't it true?

    I'm certainly no Hastert lover, but on this point it's frankly hard to argue...

    We've got how many billions of acres above sea level in this country, yet we want to pour billions extra into rebuilding on this particular spot that is below sea level?

    Unlike 9/11, Mother Nature is not a terrorist...and we can alter our behavior this time without "letting them win".

    A pity it was Hastert who was quoted on it first. But I diaried the same point yesterday before he said anything.

    Agreed that the emergency is more important right now.

    The dark at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming age.

    by peeder on Thu Sep 01, 2005 at 02:34:08 PM PDT

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    •  Also (none)
      The analogy is a bit off.  It isn't that this city got hit by a hurricane.  It's that this particular city literally fills up with 20 feet of water when that happens.  

      No one is saying don't rebuild Mobile.  They are saying why spend money to build buildings in a bowl that is below a lake.  

      After this, who the heck would want to live there anyway?  I wouldn't.  When you buy a house anywhere in the county, they do a flood plain search.  I can't even imagine an insurer OK'ing the building of anything in that bowl.  

      We as a people need to stop living in places that Nature owns.  

      Whether or not to rebuild NO in the same place or at all is not a partisan issue.  It is an environmental one.  

      "Why does man kill? He kills for food. And not only food: frequently there must be a beverage." - Woody Allen

      by Seattle Slough on Thu Sep 01, 2005 at 04:45:38 PM PDT

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      •  you're from Seattle? (none)
        Well, if you're going to have an attitude like that, when Mt. Rainer blows, don't expect any support from me for rebuilding Seattle.
        •  you completely missed my point (none)
          It isn't WHERE New Orleans is situated that is troubling.  Yes that area is susceptible to violent storms.  So is Mobile, AL.  No, it is what happens to that particular city when it does that is the problem.  

          Humans are stubborn.  We will continue to live in hurricane zones, and in tornado alley, and in earthquake territory.  Fine.  But living in a city that fills up with twenty feet of water when one of these things happens is a different story.  

          This is about the topography of that particular place.  You know, the place that is ten feet below sea level.  That place.  Probably not the smartest place to build a city.  Especially when you are in a hurricane zone and especially when there is a large body of water on the other side of a levee.

          It all depends upon what the state of the city actually is (which is unknown).  If they can just pump out the water and fix the levees and buildings, great.  If they have to rebuild entire sections of town, I say, not worth it.

          It isn't just that NO is below sea level.  It is below sea level and is still sinking.  As the water table rises, they pump it out, this lowers the city further.  That city, like Venice, and to a lesser extent Amsterdam is doomed.  The question is not if, it is when.  We would be crazy to rebuild such a city simply because we are attached to its buildings/culture/identity.  We should do so only if it is a logical and reasonable thing to do.

          Would I want to save Venice, of course.  If Venice were lost would I want to rebuild it?  Of course not.  

          BTW, Mt. Rainier blowing won't take out Seattle.  An earthquake possibly.  But not Rainier.  Rather, Rainier would destroy a few roads nearby and then spew ash eastward across the entire planet.  Ironically, when St. Helen's blew, Seattle got less ash than some places much much further to the east.  The trade winds just blow that way.

          "Why does man kill? He kills for food. And not only food: frequently there must be a beverage." - Woody Allen

          by Seattle Slough on Fri Sep 02, 2005 at 01:48:40 PM PDT

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