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  •  Superdome evac halted again; not enuf buses (none)
    The Times-Picayune just reported that evacuation of Superdome has been halted yet again, because buses were diverted to evacuate the Convention Center.

    "The people at the convention center had been there longer, said Lt. Kevin Cowan of the state Office of Emergency Preparedness."

    http://tinyurl.com/8awdr

    WHY aren't there enough buses to evacuate BOTH centers? Are the evac buses waiting on "Bush orders" too?  

    •  separate and unequal (4.00)
      A quote from the AP article you linked to:

      At one point Friday, the evacuation was interrupted briefly when school buses pulled up so some 700 guests and employees from the Hyatt Hotel could move to the head of the evacuation line -- much to the amazement of those who had been crammed in the Superdome since last Sunday.

      "How does this work? They (are) clean, they are dry, they get out ahead of us?" exclaimed Howard Blue, 22, who tried to get in their line. The National Guard blocked him as other guardsmen helped the well-dressed guests with their luggage


      In God we trust. All others must pay cash.

      by yet another liberal on Sat Sep 03, 2005 at 10:20:51 AM PDT

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      •  I saw posted elsewhere (4.00)
        .. that they needed to empty the Hyatt for police and National Guard use. In this case, this would be a logical course of action.

        OTOH, with 50 seats a bus, they needed some 1000 bus runs out of the city. When you have a round trip of, say 8 hours, with about 200 busses you should be easily able to ferry 50k people out of NO within 2 Days. Why the State of Lousiana wasn't able to commandeer and mobilize this amount of busses ôr more is beyond me - with or without federal help.

        So this whole stuff seems rather strange from my point of view. One of the logical things in NO would have been to set up a constant bus shuttle service between the first outpost of Civilizatiuon (i.e. where there is drink water, power and fuel supply) and the city of NO, shutteling supplies in and people out.

        •  thanks for "doing the math" (none)
          200 buses is NOTHING !! Nothing. How hard (or expensive?) could it have been to arrange this emergency evacuation system in advance? to test it, even?

          The 2002 Special Report by the Times-Picayune on effects of "the big hurricane," has a section on Evacuation, and predicted that there'd be "100,000 without transportation" left in the city. worth reading.

          it says: "Faced with those numbers, New Orleans officials have backup plans to move people without transportation: Regional Transit Authority buses and National Guard vehicles would take people out of the city."

          I wonder why those "backup plans" weren't implemented on Sunday? The article mentions some criticism of the plan; was it abandoned with no other plan put into place?

          •  Huh? (none)
            Maybe I just don't get the sarcasm, but 200 buses could still haul out a lot of people.  If there are 50 seats in each one, you could still cram another 20 or so people, if not more.  It would not be the most comfortable ride, but it's infinitely more preferable to drowning or parking your ass on a roof waiting for a chopper ride.
            •  why do you think it's sarcasm? (none)
              I'm very sincere. To think that all those people at the Superdome and the Convention Center, and then more, could have been rescued -- out of New Orleans -- as soon as 2 days after the road was first cleared -- if ONLY 200 buses and bus drivers had been mobilized.... that would've been so easy to do!
            •  oh, maybe you didn't read the post (none)
              I was replying to?

              the "emergency evacuation system" I mention is the plan cris0000 describes, whereby those 200 buses can evacuate 50,000 people in 2 days.

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