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  •  Where is he (4.00)
    a member of the bar?
    •  Can't tell. (none)
      I couldn't find him in either the Oklahoma or the Colorado Bar Association websites, but I don't know how, or if, they list inactive members.  So, the fact that he isn't there now doesn't mean he was never admitted at all.

      The Bush White House: Where being right gets you fired and being wrong gets you the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

      by Tod on Thu Sep 08, 2005 at 03:33:30 PM PDT

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      •  Try this... (none)

        That link may not work, but his Martindale bio is... not extensive.  Doesn't even say where he was admitted.

        I hate to pick on a Tier 4 school since my law school isn't in the top 25, but... damn...

        Spin never saved a life.

        by socratic on Thu Sep 08, 2005 at 03:41:20 PM PDT

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        •  Tier 4? That high? (4.00)
          As I understand Campos' article, Oklahoma City was not accredited at the time Brown attended, so the school would not be ranked at all.

          Brown's Findlaw page is still up at

          It indicates that he is admitted to Oklahoma, Colorado, and D.C.  It is probably worth following up on whether he is on active status anywhere.

          •  Right (none)
            I wasn't entirely clear about that.  When I heard that he attended OCU School of Law, I went to look up their ranking in US News (bleh, rankings).  I saw that they were Tier 4 and cringed.  Now I find out that they were unaccredited when he attended and I'm just stunned.

            Spin never saved a life.

            by socratic on Thu Sep 08, 2005 at 04:16:48 PM PDT

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            •  Sorry...look downthread (4.00)
              Downthread it is pointed out that the school was accredited in 1960 by the ABA but only recently by the AALS.  ABA accreditation is probably more important.  So my apologies to any OCU grads.

              BTW, UC-Boulder, from which Prof. Campos holds forth, was threatened with losing its ABA accreditation, but over delapidated facilities after the state reneged on building a new facility and not for the quality of its students or faculty.

          •  His Findlaw page was last updated 9/8/05 (4.00)
            •  That's exactly what I was thinking (none)
              He found time in the midst of chaos to update his profile today.
              •  Wonder what he "fixed"? I do. (none)
                Yes, In the midst of one of the biggest, if not the biggest, natural disasters in the United States he took the time to spiff up his Findlaw page.
                Boggles the mind.

                How can we find the change(s)?

                •  They must of been damning. n/t (none)
                •  Looked at google's cached version (4.00)
                  available here.

                  The updated version:

                  1. Changes his firm from the IAHA to FEMA and updates that contact information; and

                  2. Changes his "West Practice Categories" from Estate Planning, Family Law, Real Estate Law, Employment Law -- Employee, Employment Law -- Employer, Labor Law, Legislative Practice, Sports to Government Agencies and Programs.

                  That was just a cursory comparison, though.

                  I don't think our troops should be used for what's called nation building. - George W. Bush, 2000

                  by GN1927 on Thu Sep 08, 2005 at 05:30:10 PM PDT

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                  •  Findlaw changes. Thanks GN1927! (none)
                    Old Firm: International Arabian Horse Association
                              Legal Dept.
                    New Firm: DHS - Federal Emergency Management Agency

                    (previous) Current Employment Position: Of Counsel
                    (current) (No place to enter Current Employment    
                               Position on form)

                    West Practice Categories: currently he lists:            Government Agencies & Programs. (He has removed all of the categories that GN1927 listed).

                    (Findlaw has "Blogs" listed on the form. Do you suppose he wants to add dKos? lol. That would really increase his standing.)

                •  Well, somebody found time. (none)
                  Brown probably assigned some of the spare firefighters he had hanging around to the task of updating his resume.
          •  I am curiouser by the minute. (none)
            If it is and was at all relevant times an unaccredited law school, how exactly did he get himself admitted by the State Bars of Colorado and D.C.? Someone should actually check with the Membership Departments of the State Bars of Colorado and D.C. as to Brown, specifically, to include the possibility of inactive status; also, the policies re certifying eligibility for out-of-state, non-accredited law school grads; and whether they have ever had any reciprocity arrangements, past or present, with Oklahoma.

            In fact, maybe a full scale JimmyJeffGuckardGannon investigation is in order. How do we know he doesn't have male prostitute domain registrations, for example? Seriously.

            •  It's possible (none)
              My understanding is that to sit for the bar exam almost everywhere an applicant must have graduated from an ABA school.  The major exception is California, which has a handful of non-ABA law schools that are state accredited and which qualify graduates for the California bar exam.  There might also be a few states (California again, and maybe Virginia as well) that permit clerking as a route to the bar exam.

              However, once an attorney is admitted to the bar in one state, admission to another on motion (usually after five years) does not necessarily require graduating from an ABA-accredited school.

              This is all irrelevant, since OCU was, at all relevant times, accredited by the ABA.

        •  Not Colorado (none)
          Martindale is an advertising outlet.  They don't verify admission.

          I found an official source for Colorado.  They list one Michael D. Brown but he was admitted in 1979.  Apparently not our boy.  They do list all deceased and inactive members.So, Mike Brown claims to have practiced law in Colorado but was never admitted to practice law there.  

          I still can't tell if he was ever admitted in Oklahoma.  There is an official roll of attorneys but I haven't found it on line.

          The Bush White House: Where being right gets you fired and being wrong gets you the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

          by Tod on Thu Sep 08, 2005 at 04:21:55 PM PDT

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      •  Just call the clerk of the supreme court (none)
        of each state he claims to be a bar memeber. He/She will be able to tell you his bar number and whether Brownie has kept his license active or inactive.

        As in KS. Atty.Gen.Phil Kline fits the into the Brownie, failed to practice law, but claims to be a lawyer.

        Lets find a laywer without a law practice and run him for attorney general..William Allen White.

    •  Well, he was (4.00)
      admitted in Colorado in 1992 -- now listed as "inactive": Colorado Attorney Information

      Leave the cat alone, for what has the cat done, that you should so afflict it with tape? - Ian Frazier, Lamentations of the Father

      by Frankenoid on Thu Sep 08, 2005 at 03:52:27 PM PDT

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    •  Someone Checked Yesterday (none)
      He is listed as an Inactive member of the Colorado Bar.

      My separate place for mental meanderings: Political Sapphire

      by shanikka on Thu Sep 08, 2005 at 03:53:44 PM PDT

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    •  Don't Republicans ever do a background check ... (none)
      So much unbelievable horseshit/resume padding in his bio...

      Prior to joining FEMA, Mr. Brown practiced law in Colorado and Oklahoma, where he served as a bar examiner on ethics and professional responsibility for the Oklahoma Supreme Court and as a hearing examiner for the Colorado Supreme Court. He had been appointed as a special prosecutor in police disciplinary matters. While attending law school he was appointed by the Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee of the Oklahoma Legislature as the Finance Committee Staff Director, where he oversaw state fiscal issues. His background in state and local government also includes serving as an assistant city manager with emergency services oversight and as a city councilman.

      Mr. Brown was also an adjunct professor of law for the Oklahoma City University.

      "If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers." - Pynchon

      by HairOnFire on Thu Sep 08, 2005 at 04:09:28 PM PDT

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      •  Background check? (none)
        They weren't worried he might be padding his resume....

        ...because they all padded theirs, too!

        "The responsibility of government for the public safety is absolute and requires no mandate." -Winston Churchill

        by hopesprings on Thu Sep 08, 2005 at 05:08:46 PM PDT

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      •  Background check? (none)
        Is that done at ?

        The lists of donors?

        (That does not pick up bundling of donations, so one also eneds to phone up party headquarters, the 'appointee evaluation', ummh, 'major donor' center, and ask a few key questions.)

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