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  •  I agree; ciriticism of OCU not warranted (none)
    I appreciate the digging Campos did, but his treatment of this accrediation issue is a little too elitist for me.
    I don't know anything about iOCU particularly, but I'm betting that, even if it wasn't until recently accredited by the AALS, it WAS accredited by the American Bar Association.  I think in most states, the requirement for taking the bar exam is a degree from an ABA-accredited school.  The fact that  a school is not a member of the AALS doesn't mean it's anywhere near the "matchbook" school of law category.  My law school alma mater has been AALS-accredited for    decades, but before that was only ABA-accredited.

    There's lots more about Brownie's actual lack of legal experience, or his misrepresentation  of his experience, that's more damning than this.

    •  There's still plenty there that damns Brownie (none)
      as a hack.

      "If the cause be not good, the king himself hath a heavy reckoning to make." (Henry V, v.i)

      by Fatherflot on Thu Sep 08, 2005 at 06:47:37 PM PDT

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    •  I agree (none)
      Knowing that he is has even fewer qualifications than claimed is interesting (and rather horrifying), but I think spending too much time on this particular angle would be a distraction.

      If we start slamming the guy for not changing his oil every 3,000 miles, the bigger picture gets lost.

    •  Would this be accurate re: AALS accreditation? (none)
      The lack of it would mean that the school wasn't poisoned with the pointy-headed, elitist, librul academic element?
      I would think that would be a good thing in Oklahoma.
    •  very elitist (none)
      Many of the comments on this thread haven't been a "little elitist" -- they have been very elitist.

      Some of you need to go douse yourself with cold water and come back and reread what you've written.

      And you need to figure out the difference between ABA accredidation and AALS accredidation.  

      Don't create strawman arguments for the right.  Rove will creatre enough on his own.

      •  Oh, for God's sake. (none)
        And you need to figure out the difference between ABA accredidation and AALS accredidation.

         Outside of the legal profession how many people do you think understand that there are (apparently) several accrediting institutions for their profession? Perhaps .001% of the population?
        The notion that folks in this thread are 'elitist' commenting on the qualifications of a man who is demonstrably unqualified and inept at his job which is, unfortunately, saving the lives of our fellow citizens in the event of natural disasters and terrorists attacks is elitist?
        What's elitist is getting a job because of who your college roommate was.  

        "...the definition of a gaffe in Washington is somebody who tells the truth but shouldn't have." Howard Dean

        by colleen on Fri Sep 09, 2005 at 07:04:37 AM PDT

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        •  asdf (none)
          First of all, I was very careful to say that some of the comments, not the people, on this thread were elitist.  Second, I was not referring to those attacking Brown's qualifications or ability.  I was referring to those comments that attacked him simply because he got his law degree from a lower tiered school, and in essence attacked anyone who got their law degree from that school.  And that is elitist.  Period.

          There are many reasons why people might attend a OCU as opposed to Harvard or Yale or whereever, and many of those reasons are linked to class.  Honestly, I was shocked to be reading a lot of these comments on Dkos.  I understand that a lot of it was probably driven by understandable and 100% justifiable outrage over Brown's ineptitude (which cost so many).  But there are plenty of legitimate things to go after without having to pursue this illegitimate and ultimately indefensible avenue of criticism.

          As for the ABA vs. AALS stuff, I just didn't want people to be going out and making factually incorrect arguments.  We spend so much time pointing out the lies and misinformation of the Right that I didn't want any of us to give the Rovians a way to dent our credibility.  I didn't go into more detail on it because it was late and others had already pointed out the differences (it just didn't seem like many people were paying attention).

          Perhaps my comment was not entirely clear on what I meant.  It was the second one I wrote in the thread so I may have left out a lot of info that I had put into the first comment higher up.

          •  Yes, (none)
            I was referring to those comments that attacked him simply because he got his law degree from a lower tiered school, and in essence attacked anyone who got their law degree from that school.  And that is elitist.  Period.

            I agree that it comes across as elitist.

            "...the definition of a gaffe in Washington is somebody who tells the truth but shouldn't have." Howard Dean

            by colleen on Fri Sep 09, 2005 at 06:52:58 PM PDT

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