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  •  High gas prices (none)
    in the absence of viable transportation alternatives are a really regressive form of taxation that falls heavily on poor and working folks.

    To support this, Democrats need to screw over the very people we would like most to help. Not a great way to garner support from our base.

    Our infrastructure is so tied to individual vehicles and there are so few alternatives, especially in rural areas, that we really need wholesale policy and cultural change. Maybe that kind of change requires the sort of train wreck that the energy-conscious are   anticipating.  (Kind of like being tied to the track ain't it?)

    "Help us to save free conscience from the paw -- Of hireling wolves whose gospel is their maw." --John Milton

    by ohiolibrarian on Wed Sep 14, 2005 at 03:41:47 PM PDT

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    •  I agree with you... (none)
      ..but it's a bit of a chicken-egg problem.  The alternatives are not cost-effective and widely available until the demand exists for them, and the demand won't exist until the price of gas goes up.
    •  The dollars that are raised from the gas tax (4.00)
      Should be targeted toward developing and subsidizing the alternative transportation options.  But I agree that the difficulty of bringing this to the table through our political system is almost insurmountable.

      Follow the yellowcake road 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

      by oregonj on Wed Sep 14, 2005 at 04:39:19 PM PDT

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      •  How about this (none)
        All passenger cars are somehow rated for environmental friendliness.  (MPG / number of passengers), or just straight MPG or something similar.

        Then, cars with a lower "friendliness" have to pay a higher gas-tax rate.  It could be done as a premium on registration fees (check the odometer) or there could be 3-5 "tax-categories" and the category is determined when you fill up.  Gasoline distributed to containers (instead of directly to vehicles) would pay the highest tax rate.

        I know this has some problems the way I described it, but I walked by a big yellow hummer today, and it just pissed me off that someone is still driving that obnoxious thing to work every day.  They should have to pay $8.00/gallon if they want to waste gasoline.

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