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  •  Point 2? (none)
    Are you crazy? No effing way. That's not why he is doing it. Clinton and Schumer are definite Nos.

    Point 1 - duh.

    The SCOTUS is Extraordinary.

    by Armando on Sat Sep 17, 2005 at 08:56:55 AM PDT

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    •  I think you're right... (none)
      We probably have to worry about losing the Nelsons, Pryor, Lincoln, Byrd, Bayh, and Salazar. I think we can reasonably expect the rest to vote no.

      What about moderate Republicans? Do you think they will be unanimous in support or can we pull off a few? Linc Chafee has a tough campaign coming up.

      •  NARAL (none)
        An interesting situation with Chafee.

        The SCOTUS is Extraordinary.

        by Armando on Sat Sep 17, 2005 at 09:15:50 AM PDT

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      •  Dont forget Mary Landrieu, with her vote for Owens (none)
        She is an essential A-List player on the Dem team whose slogan is: Let's Win One for the Corporatocracy! She is a sure bet on the Aye for Roberts.

        She is willing to go even further than most of her other team players, as with Owens, Gonzales and let us not forget her pro-ANWR drilling vote this year. She was being lunched to help out on the final death blow to the "Death Tax" although Katrina may have made her unavailable for a few of those, as she must now perform "concerned representative" of her impoverished and traumatized constituency. Dont forget she voted FOR the BANKRUPTCY BILL, which will soon go into effect, just in time to smack down her already traumatized constituents with yet another knockout in column "Plutocracy."

        This is why I loathe (much of) my own damn party, (18 Dem senators joined her in the bankruptcy treasonous vote) feel utterly disconnected from them and agree with Seymour Hersh who ridiculed the extremely "clownish" state of our Congress, as he called it. IE, they who abdicate responsibilty to serve their constituents well, both sides of the aisle, and take breaks to eat Freedom Fries as men are tortured and denied representation in Enemy Combatant Limbo awaiting Military Tribunals.

        A very UNAmerican status that Roberts agreed with.

        I dont even bother to write Hillary any more, as I figure any woman who could ignore a half million protesters against the war in her own city, and another 300,000 or so a month later (and also ignore antiwar res by city council, polls against by residents of NY, marches to her office, requests by groups to meet with her) doesnt give a flying fuck about progressives concerns. (That was a BIG one, not you say tomato, I say tomahto.)

        Maybe we do have to focus more on the local scene, as Dean says. Maybe these fuckers on the Hill are beyond us. Yeah, Feingold and a few others are reliably on our side, but there are too many who are diseased by a system that allows it with corporate campaign contributions, wealthy donors, ie, not publicly funded campaigns ... and a nasty, messed up, riggable, disenfranchisable electoral system.

        So, back to Bloomberg

        Hey Mike! You aint such a bad bloke, youre anti DP, proChoice, but damn if we dont have an increasing nightmare of Two Cities, one for the rich like you and one for the have nots and have littles ... NY City has the greatest gap between the rich and poor, and growing all the time, of US cities. Our poverty rate has skyrocketed consistent with our rents. Our protections have been stripped from us. We need affordable housing, protection for small businesses and sane rents for tenants. You may be used to the slick, gated community feel this city is taking on, but many of us see the heart and soul getting sucked out .. with the immigrants, artists, teachers, bus drivers, short order cooks, etc and so on ... who just cant live here anymore.

        So, Mayor Bloomberg,

        Is is okay that NY City is a place for the ultra rich and the ultra poor, with the former finding a prettified city, the latter fewer and fewer crumbs?

        How does being antiDP and ProChoice fix these bread and butter issues?

        What say you, Mr Bloomberg? What have you done? What will you do? What have you said?

        Zilch ... it seems to me.

        Should a liberal Dem blog be driven into "safe zones" by a tame party, or should it drive a tame party to break out?

        by NYCee on Sat Sep 17, 2005 at 10:18:43 AM PDT

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      •  A Few More - At Least (none)
        I think there will be a few more Senate Dems going for Roberts: Conrad, Dorgan, Johnson &  Landrieu are all good possibilities. Probably a few more will join in once it's obvious that there won't be a unified vote.

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