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  •  You mean Bloomberg (none)
    is out of his mind.

    That was his position. Not mine.

    Mine is discussed in my posts below.

    The SCOTUS is Extraordinary.

    by Armando on Sat Sep 17, 2005 at 09:12:01 AM PDT

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    •  No, I mean you (none)
      The rationales you (or anyone else) offers to justify voting no on Roberts are essentially made-up.  "Another Clarence Thomas"? -- you want one, vote against Roberts and you will get one.  You cannot have a situation in which the GOP voted practically unanimously for ACLfuckingU counsel Ginsburg and the Dems vote against a conservative-but-not-Scalia Roberts without one side -- ours -- looking stupid and obstructionist and pandering.  Voting yes on not-nearly-so-bad Roberts, too, provides the moral armor that may be necessary if Bush's second SCOTUS nominee IS a Clarence Thomas warmover.  I repeat:  it is a HUGE STRATEGIC MISTAKE to vote no on Roberts.
      •  is there anything the Democratic Party (none)
        and its representatives can do or say, re: any issue, that won't be portrayed as "stupid and obstructionist and pandering"?

        seriously -- this is a serious question.

        people like you haven't realized that it doesn't matter what policies and proposals are put forward by Democrats, the GOP noise machine will disparage and ridicule them. Making decisions on policies and proposals in order to try to avoid being disparaged and ridiculed is useless (let alone the wrong thing to do).

        •  Are you serious? (none)
          Politics is theater, Jennifer -- is there any other way to explain how an idiot like Bush was able to get elected?  Yes, the Rep noise machine will always try to make Dems look bad -- but that's no reason to help them out with Pyrrhic hissyfits over someone like Roberts who, whatever else he might be, is better than Rehnquist ever was.  In case you haven't noticed, the GOP fucking loves to run against NARAL and People for the American WAY, and, you know what -- they keep winning elections!
          •  we disagree as to why Dems keep losing n/t (none)
          •  Maybe... (none)
            It's a good thing that the Dems should stand by their principles for once, instead of making a show of playing nice with Bush in order to appease conservatives.  The Republicans aren't willing to concede their points in order to play nice with the Dems, so why should the Dems be willing to concede theirs (and sell out their constituencies in the process?)

            I don't see how politics-as-theater, as you describe it, is going to come to an end if Democrats just go along with it.

      •  What? (none)
        Their answers on privacy are indistinguishable.

        Are you capable of actually formulating an argument or is this the best you got?

        The SCOTUS is Extraordinary.

        by Armando on Sat Sep 17, 2005 at 12:54:09 PM PDT

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