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    of Chris Bowers gives me some hope:

    As I have previously reported, the progressive blogosphere is a lager source of news for younger Americans than all of the cable news networks combined (and the progressive blogosphere has more than doubled its audience since I made that report). This could all be coincidental, but it could mean that the progressive blogosphere is becoming the heart and soul of the rank and file opposition to Republicans nationwide. People often accuse me of overstating the power of the netroots and the blogosphere, but perhaps even I have been dramatically understating it. I mean, if the blogosphere plays a central role in the political life of over two million of the most politically active progressives, and those people tend to be the influentials in their family and social circles, how could we not be basically driving the progressive zeitgeist nationwide? Progressives are flowing into the blogs, as noted by our astronomical increase in audience size over the past two years. Something persuasive, influential and meaningful must be happening here, and it is starting to really look like it is transforming the Democratic Party from the bottom (or at least the middle) up.

    emphasis mine.

    at MyDD

    "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed it's the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead

    by RevDeb on Sun Sep 18, 2005 at 06:47:55 PM PDT

    •  And how big is that audience? (none)
      When I was in college, nobody watched news.  Well, except for sports coverage.  So we could be the largest news source for all college-aged kids nationwide and still have 10k kids tuned in.

      How many people get their news from the blogosphere at least once a week? Chris had this story which compared cable tv ratings to the liberal blogosphere - but he was comparing page views to number of viewers - apples and oranges.  We may have millions of page views but how many pages do I see at Kos on a given day?  Easily 100.  And there are people who read and post much more often than I do.  But even if you say that the average is just 20...  Take Chris's more recent story from here where Kos had 1.35 million pageviews on 9/8, that may mean that only 50,000 people were here that day.  So I don't agree that the liberal blogosphere has passed the Cable networks as a news source, unless you take one page view = one viewer which is patently false.

      -Fred

      Democrats *do* have a plan for Social Security - it's called Social Security. -- Ed Schultz

      by FredFred on Sun Sep 18, 2005 at 07:25:54 PM PDT

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      •  Yes, but ... (none)
        podcasting has arrived. Soon the masses will easily be able to download and listen to their favorite progressive talk shows, no matter how small or arcane the production may be. We are in a transition period where computers and computer-like hardware, such as the iPod and DVD players, already allow listeners and viewers get a more diverse message. For example, how many people saw Mike Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 on DVD and have been influenced by it? Such market saturation for a film like Fahrenheit 9/11 would not have been possible even 10 years ago. So while I agree that the liberal blogosphere may not be all that influential as of now, other technologies are coming online that will tend supplement and reinforce the blogosphere.
        •  echo chamber (none)
          How many people are going to download a 2-hour podcast of a talk show and listen to it?  How many people bought Fahrenheit 9/11 who weren't already receptive to the message?

          The hard core liberals aren't the ones that need to be converted, although we do benefit tremendously from the information here so we can counter talking points when we encounter them.  I don't know how many minds are swayed by the left-wing blogosphere.

          -F

          Democrats *do* have a plan for Social Security - it's called Social Security. -- Ed Schultz

          by FredFred on Tue Sep 20, 2005 at 12:09:20 PM PDT

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      •  Pageviews (none)
        Fred, on average I think 20 would be high. You're probably looking at more like 10. It's probably in the 100,000 visitor range, but Kos could answer that - he has before.

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